New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. DrtSqtr

    DrtSqtr Been here awhile

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    WOW now thats bad Azzzzzz......
    Dang another thing i want to get for my 690.....
    I knew i should of left the computer off...lol
    looks great...
  2. MFS

    MFS Been here awhile

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    Posted a few pages back on my woes, and they have gotten worse...this is just me venting, more or less:eek1

    Took my KTM to a Non-KTM dealer to get 15K inspection done (late), thought I'd give em a try and save me time

    Vavles I were told were good, rode home (New chain, sprocket) and it hesitated at intersections, then stalled when I got home for the first time ever, owned since new.

    Test rode later, same thing. Called shop and they picked it up for me to give it a look. (They forgot to re-install the front screw holding the airbox lid, but it was secure to the boot) I was gonna do the 15 min reset (never did it before) but could not get it to idle for more than 8 minutes

    Shop picked up bike, and couldn't find any error, other than at low idle same as me so I said bring her back, I'll put a few miles on it like it is then, benefit of the doubt maybe it'll work itself out, or something will break definatively, and that'll make it easier to troubleshoot:deal

    Bike was dropped off while I was at work, went to start it the next day, and NO START, hasn't ran since. They will be picking it up again this week, and most likely trucking it to the nearest KTM dealer (who only deals with smaller bore KTM's, but will take a look at it)(

    So, to try and make my life simpler, end result uhh, not so much! :D So I ripped into it today, I've never even had the airbox off this thing before, last inspection was through a KTM dealer here that has since closed down:cry

    I've found 3 wires that had the insulation worn through to the point I can see copper. Wires not looking damaged though, so I taped and reset them in proper places.

    Pump I'm sure is fine. It sounds the same as always, and is sending fuel properly. No spark methinks somehow. Of course I DON'T HAVE THE PROPER FRICKEN PLUG WRENCH. A problem I will soon rectify. Always assumed one of the many I have would fit.

    Plug wire is good. May have just fouled the beast? New plug, will try a new battery as this one is crankin soft, but only as a result of trying to start in on and off the last couple days. Have a charger on it, but it is the original battery (2010 690 R)

    Anywho....not intending to be negative, just posting so that when it does get fixed, by my hand or the next, I'll post what it was so it may help someone, sometime.

    Have fun riden y'all., I'm not...

    Bike is awesome, and has never skipped a beat prior to this. That's the gamble of gettting someones elses hands in there, who knows what happened at the shop. A simple remap may be all it needs. Just gotta find someone that can first! Or invest, hmmm....


    Not blaming the local dealer either, they seem to be good folk, and part of this experiment was to support the local economy, and hope to find a good shop in the process.

    Ride safe,

    MFS
  3. thorinoakenshield

    thorinoakenshield ya mo be there

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    yeah thx for the advice WUNDERKINDER, i'll use a blunt wood drift or something....it's not a big deal now that i know it is removable.
  4. ramjet

    ramjet Long timer

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    What are the downsides to the air intake being routed like that-affect performance? Watercrossing concerns? What else had to be moved? The stealth gallonage is very intriguing.
  5. RoninMoto

    RoninMoto Wanderer

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    I had 20% less fuel mileage when I had the Unifilter vs the stock air box. The performance was quite nice though. Not as loud as the Twinair filter on the front of the air box.
  6. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    I remember you mentioning the mileage drop while running the open UNI POD in a PM response to me, but do you think the mileage drop was due to having a thirsty map loaded?

    The UNI double pod inside of the stock box is the route I decided to take at your suggestion.

    Good suggestion.

    Dirty
  7. RoninMoto

    RoninMoto Wanderer

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    With the open Uni Pod you pretty much have to have a thirsty map otherwise you will run her too lean. With the stock snorkel you can keep her close to stock on the map if you want the efficiency.
  8. BK.RD.RNR

    BK.RD.RNR Torque Stick

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    I ran the Uni foam filter with the stock box/ snorkel, and fmf Q4 pipe. No remap was necessary, just the 15 min reset...
  9. RoninMoto

    RoninMoto Wanderer

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    This was the exact setup on my old bike. The new one is the same but it has an LV pipe but I am now running Frankenstein map I put together. A touch richer on the top end but sip sip sip when you are cruising. seems to work out nicely.
  10. Oz-Strom

    Oz-Strom Still trying

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  11. motoged

    motoged Been here awhile

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    What kind of oil do you think is best?





    :ear :y0!




    :poser:poser


    No recent posts.....have we solved all the 690 issues?


    C'mon, somebody out there have a complaint or a pic of their new rally fairing held on by industrial velcro?:D
  12. bobzilla

    bobzilla Dirty Old Man

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    waiting on Crank. dont want to give up on the 690 but................
    Im sure this will fix the problems............throwing money away anyway if I dumnp it now:rofl
    and
    there is nothing out there I want to replace it with...........bikes and beer are my only vises that cost $$ so I can have almost anything ....just dont see it.
  13. The Letter J

    The Letter J lost in the 690 mega

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    Okay, I've got a complaint...

    I have been through a metric shit ton of tires on my bikes and usually once I find a set that works for a particular bike, that is all I will ever buy for it again. Here lies the problem: I've run all sorts of non-dot tires on the 690 and the michelin HP4 front was the only one I ever truly liked (yes Bobzilla I ran an m12 already and it chunked like none other). I've run quite a few DOT fronts including: mt21, d606, k760, motoz h/t, motoz s/t, motoz x-circuit and probably more that I can't remember... ALL of the DOT tires sucked!

    Being that my current motoz s/t (my least favorite tire in any on or offroad situation) is ready for the dumpster, it is time to experiment some more. I've been really curious about the pirelli 486 https://www.denniskirk.com/front-scorpion-mx-hard-486-90-100m-21-tire.p643248.prd and have found no reviews/ input whatsoever, anyone here ever run one?

    I ride the 690 like a dirtbike and don't care too much about mileage (as long as it last at least as long as a non-dot knobby on the rear does) and very little about onroad handling. The vast majority of the terrain that I ride is very hard packed with sharp/loose rocks on top and coarse desert sand. The only front tires other than the 486 that are currently on my radar are the dunlop 908 and the michelin desert and I've never run any of these.

    So what says the 690 brotherhood? Stick with the non-dot HP4 or try the p486/ d908/ or m desert?

    P.S. somebody buy my uprated (9.0) rear spring in the flea market so I can afford a new tire!
  14. crankshaft

    crankshaft Guns are for pussies

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    I ran the MotoZ HT's front and rear in MX and they worked well.
  15. The Letter J

    The Letter J lost in the 690 mega

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    I've run the H/T's already and while the rear worked pretty good, the front just didn't seem to have enough "bite." The rear worked good for the wide open stuff but the x-circuit rear had the advantage in both cornering and longevity so that will definately be my next rear tire.

    I've pretty much narrowed it down to (keep in mind this is only in regards to the front tire) pirelli 486, michelin desert, or dunlop 908. Of these tires, how do they fair for my described terrain?
  16. Evil Invader

    Evil Invader Been here awhile

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    I say Michelin Des. Expensive, but a good one. Ever looked at Mitas?
  17. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    Bridgestone ED 78 rear / Maxxis Desert IT front
    Works very well in hard/ rocky desert stuff
    Great in sand...
    Readily available and cheaper than Motoz/Michelin
  18. Tootega

    Tootega n00b

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    MITAS work well for me. Ive used the EF07 and the CO2 do.t with 18mm knobs on the rear. The best value for lots of pavement/rocky is the Army tyre.
  19. karinjtimoyht

    karinjtimoyht Adventurer

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    i do not have an ignition switch itself
    Just two kill switches One kills all power and the other is just an engaine kill
    my well have a look at the switches[​IMG]
  20. blakrj

    blakrj Need to ride

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    +1. A lot of Dakar pedigree on the Michelin Desert. Isn't the HP4 a motocross tyre? How long did it last?