New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. Gustavo.Ramos

    Gustavo.Ramos Long timer

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    Can't assure there was any fuel filter change, and hardly the injector was ever cleaned, however can't relate those to this specific behavior.

    Engine start and idle is very consistent.

    Nevertheless, we both have quite similar bikes and my buddy's bike noticeably pulls less strong than mine. It vibrates less but feels significant weaker. Final drive ratio on his (15/47) is a bit longer than mine (14/45), but from my knowledge this difference wouldn't make his bike so much weaker than mine.
  2. TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Forest Ranger Magnet

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    First, unless your bikes are setup exactly similar I wouldn't compare them, each bike is different enough in stock trim and comparing two similar but not exact setups can cause a person to chase the wrong troubleshooting variables.


    Basically we need to find the problem so lets be methodical. Did this problem appear out of the blue or after some change? Did the bike ever not stall?
  3. yuu

    yuu Been here awhile

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    Not trying to say that the filter or injector is the root cause. Just issues than could make an existing fueling issue harder to deal with.

    And his final ratio should make it feel *more* grunty and powerful. One would run out of RPMs earlier but pick up more quickly. So if you two had the same final drive, his would feel further weaker.
  4. Gustavo.Ramos

    Gustavo.Ramos Long timer

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    Well it was not an exact comparison, but the fact is that there is an issue with the idling just when the throttle is cut and the clutch pulled.

    The comparison between bikes engine response was related to yuu's query on fuel filter service and injector cleaning, as in fact we noticed different behavior with his bike pulling significant less.

    BTW, thanks for the link in your signture, was not awar of a ktm690 info. :wink:

    Agree, still it's a valid point as i'm in the auto industry and have seen quite a few problems related to injector condition.

    I stand corrected on your calculation. His bike situation is worse than expected.
  5. Hoots

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    I have the same problem (2012 690 R), and came to a similar conclusion - not always, but occasionally - e.g. brake and clutch hard before a corner, and chuggs right down low +/- stalls - mine also resulted in a flashing oil pressure light, which persists for a while - oil pressure tested and OK.
  6. mickd

    mickd crash test dummie

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    check with your dealer as there is a brand new mapping just come out from ktm for this,

    mickd
  7. Bigbugberg

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    After a Wings exhaust install, I updated my FI map to match Beanys suggestion and have no stalling but also runs a little fat for my tastes. In TuneECU my F-L switch is set to 10,10,0,0,0,0,0,0 and the FTrim is 4%.

    Conversely, the Akro and stock map F-L Switch is 20,35,39,39,39,39,39,39 and the FTrim is 0%.

    Maybe the butterflys are closing (because of the F-L switch values) and choking the engine off???

    Probably going to FTrim at 2% very soon.
  8. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    I just picked up a 2009 690R with 8800 miles.
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    It seems she was pretty much a street bike.
    She already has a Safari tank and a custom Corbin seat. (Never knew they did custom) Very comfy.
    I've already ordered in a FMF Q4.
    Next on a long list of things to be resolved is the headlight.
    What have you guys been doing about that POS BA20 bulb? I saw a note about a possible mod to put a H4 in there. Anybody know the details?
  9. The Letter J

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    Hey I know that bike... I'm pretty sure that was owned by a police officer in Santa Maria and was on consignment at Santa Barbara Motorsports?

    As far as the appliance lightbulb, you can change the entire headlight to the much better 2008/2012 version and get not only an H4 bulb but a much better reflector that is DOT approved to boot. I opted to change to a 7" round light but the stock 08/12 light is actually pretty good and with a bulb upgrade is totally acceptable.

    KTM part numbers for light to follow...

    headlight housing: 76514001000

    wiring harness (plugs right in): 76511079000

    mask (orange): 7650800100004

    brakeline guide: 76513025000

    I believe the misc hardware from your existing light can be reused for adjustment screws, mounting, etc. This setup should come out to ~$150

    At a similar pricepoint and light output you can get a Trailtech X2 that allows the hi/low beams to be on at the same time and the housing lends itself well to HID conversions: http://trailtech.net/ktm-x2-ds-halogen-kits.html this light is also a straight plug in to your 690
  10. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    Yup that the bike. That PO took really nice care of the bike. Lots of stuff done. Much more to do. Along with the headlight is to raise the suspension back up and put heavy springs on for my Fat Arse.:lol3
    Hmm replace the headlight assembly. Maybe so as the final product. I would like to use the existing for now. Spend my money on the other dirt stuff needed.:D
  11. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    Thank you.

    I don't think much of the TT X2. I had one that I was going to put on my 525. Not nearly as much light as the standard Baja Designs rectangle headlight. I'm not sure I could go so far as to put one of those on my new Ginger. :lol3 Been considering the big 7 or 8 inch units as well. Is yours hi/lo?
  12. Baja Dad

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    I have an H-4 690 light and a HID 690 light That will fit in that mask
    I also have a Leo Vance rear pipe section and a Scotts Stablizer tower and a Tourtech bash plate and Disc shark fin.
    I will sell you send me a PM
    Welcome to the 690 club
  13. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    Anybody got some heavy FF springs sitting around? 90 or 100 rear and maybe 60 for the front. :ear

    Yes, I plan on getting the new spring collar before installing that rear. :D
  14. Baja Dad

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    I have a complete set of Trail tricks reworked forks I may trade+$
  15. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    Mark, You are killing me. :lol3
    Send me a PM with your complete list of available 690 stuff. Should only take a page or two. :lol3
    Did you get my txt?
  16. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    Could somebody with a 2009 or 2010 R please give me a length in mm on the sidestand? The PO apparently cut or replaced this one when he lowered the bike. I'll be raising it back up to full height. 2008 & 2012 shows 295 mm. I expect 09 & 10 would be longer some. The microfiche don't show for the 09. :cry
    I might do an adjustable style like I did on the 950.
  17. Baja Dad

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    I have a 08 side stand I am not going to use.
    Lets trade!
  18. Sutherngintelmen

    Sutherngintelmen around the bend

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    Pic of your design?
  19. dad2bike

    dad2bike Retired! Cranky Old Fart

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    I pretty much copied this design.
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    From this thread. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560956

    I personally used smaller bolt/nuts and a big round washer for a big foot. I also ground off the bolt head at an angle.
  20. Oldbear

    Oldbear Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah

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    It should be 306 mm on the R model. Regular Enduro (and 2012 Enduro R) has a 295 mm one and SMC R 275 mm.