New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Been here awhile

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    Best thing to do first is to fit 4,8Nm springs,they are too hard stock,Then 5W oil with 115mm air gap.
  2. Swap

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    i'm not realy happy whith ride comfort for the long travel track
    i did'nt try to modify setting of fork and rear schock after 12 000 km yet
    it's realy urgent for me now (my back is not happy)
  3. Chris 690R

    Chris 690R Adventurer

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    Anyone know what the diff is between the 12 690 and the new 2013 690?

    Chris
  4. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    365 Days?

    :evil

    I haven't heard of any changes what so ever to the '13 bikes.

    Dirty
  5. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Unlike 2012 there will be no adventure model offered in 2013
  6. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    The inner water pump seal failed. The coolant filled the oil chamber and the bike overheated. It was during a race...as a result the headgasket also failed. However I did not realize that the headgasket had failed until I replaced the water pump seals. When I fixed the pump seals I could see clear signs of coolant leaking past the inner seal (oil/water barrier) along the shaft.

    it took 4 oil changes in rapid succession to clean all the contaminated oil out of the engine. The first batch of fresh oil turned instantly to a milkshake....so I drained it and filled with used oil...ran for a couple of minutes and then drained...refilled with used oil and repeated until the oil drained out clean.
  7. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    Easiest way to fix the 690 suspension is to pull it off the bike and throw in in the dumpster and then invest in some good stuff. :evil I have a reworked set on my bike and though it is vastly better than stock it still doesn't feel as good as some of the older 525's and a 640 adventure I have ridden with well setup suspension.
  8. Bruno T .

    Bruno T . N8YQ

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    Huh ?

    The factory clutch lever has a cast in boss which depresses the clutch switch when the lever is pulled in to allow the m/c to be started in gear [provided the side stand is up].

    Aftermarket lever replacements, such as Motion pro, which don't have that boss will result in nothing more than the clutch switch not being depressed when the lever is pulled in, therefore not allowing the m/c to be started when in gear.
  9. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Actually, the stock reworked suspension works really well when you put 17" wheels and sticky tires on them. :lol3
  10. Bruno T .

    Bruno T . N8YQ

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    That's what i ended up with on my 10, but only the larger diam ones, not all of them. Removed the small backer too. It's certainly not the same as springing for closed chambers, but it doesn't deflect like it used to.

    I'd pull the stack and measure it up as a 12 might be different.
  11. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    this is true. And it is a major pain in the ass having to start the bike in neutral every time. Disconnecting the clutch switch and shorting it out will result in poor running and less power though
  12. Bruno T .

    Bruno T . N8YQ

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    Indeed.

    Oh, so what he was saying is that if you were to install a non OE lever, and short the switch to get around not having to be in neutral to start the m/c, that would result in less power.

    Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying, Seth.
  13. Baja Dad

    Baja Dad Long timer

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    WHY ???:ear
  14. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Because neutral is a bitch to find on the bike.
  15. Bruno T .

    Bruno T . N8YQ

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    I assume you mean why the power loss . .

    Good question.

    atom7 confirmed it by rigging a switch that he could toggle on and off - here.

    I wonder if the clutch switch simply activates the neutral throttle map. If that's the case, it'd be easy to modify that map [mine already is].

    I need to rig up a similar switch and do some testing.
  16. dad2bike

    dad2bike Cranky Old Fart

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    Yes. Please do. :ear
    I found that switch a PITA on my 950A and simply jumpered it. I surely would want to do the same on this bike.
    Please tell us where in the map to turn it off as well. :D
  17. Seth S

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    Its also a pain if you are racing...or riding in traffic or someplace inconvenient to have to drop down to neutral and start the bike.

    In australia we had problems with an aftermarket brake lever as it did not hit the switch properly and thus required neutral to start. So we cut the switch wires and shorted them together. I ran the prologue of the Safari with it this way and the bike stalled left and right, was way down on power, and generally ran like crap. After that we reconnected the switch and I ran my "modified" stock clutch lever and it was back to normal. The clutch switch does something to the efi on the stock system...what exactly I do not know but it does run like poo
  18. DirtJack

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    This is yet another topic which was discussed/explained several times on the old mega thread which is now lost. Don't know if I can remember all the details or not, but the Kehein ECU has logic (to save fuel/emissions) which cuts off fueling if the motor is in gear and above a certain rpm and the clutch is not pulled, when the throttle is closed, knowing the motor will restart when the throttle is opened. If these conditions are not met, then the idle map must be used to keep the motor running. If the ECU thinks the clutch is always pulled, then the idle map gets used in situations it should not be.

    I don't think anyone had solved this problem while disabling the clutch switch.
  19. Dotbond

    Dotbond Africa, Africa

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    Well, at least you are a lot closer to the UK and Rally Raid Products than I am ( New Zealand ) to get your suspension to them to sort out for you.
  20. Chris 690R

    Chris 690R Adventurer

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    Man why don't they produce a true adventure version of the 690?????????

    Because it will effect the sales of the 990 of course!!!!!!

    I need a proper screen and dash for my 690, but don't want to spend $3k to do it!

    Chris