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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.
I keep getting a hilarious mental picture of this.
While I'm not gonna toss out some silly argument that all bikes have issues. The fact is the 690 has had more then it's share of issues, but most in the early stages. I honestly feel that they rushed the bike into production and it shows. Now that being said, it is also happens to be one of the funniest, most enjoyable bikes I've ever owned. When it comes down to it I can easily live with the issues, and mine's suffered through just about every reported one.
One of those episodes occured at a red light. When the light changed and I pulled the clutch in, it backfired and blew the muffler tip into the windshield of a Deputy Sheriff that was sitting behind me at the intersection....he wasn't amused...:eek1
I'd like to remind everyone that we are only a small number of all 690 riders here.
I have not had any problems with my bike and thinking all 690 have the same problems as posted here is just crazy
If you have problems though this is the place to go!
Flashing oil light is often due to bad sensor (comon problem with the -12)
Wow! Too funny!!
Excellent many thanks..
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With respect, you may have sorted out your particular problems, but the problems associated with 690s per se appear to be far from sorted ...
It is – you need two ts ...
Your observations about 'simple mechanical machines' are not true at all - the 950s went beautifully for the people here I know who ran them – and a few who still run them - ditto the 625 SXC and 640 Adventure - all good solid (and fixable) bikes - and all very good performance - the 625 and 950 are only marginally off today’s specs and pace - in fact, the 625 probably has better pickup and a better gearbox than the 690 IMHO - older suspension of course ...
Fuel injection certainly improves fuel economy, but the complexity doesn't by definition lead to a better bike ...<o></o>
Especially if you're after an ADV bike ...
We are fortunate here in having a long-time KTM dealership with mechanics who have been working on these bikes since they were introduced – there is only one older KTM dealership in Australia ...
My point to someone a few pages back was that 690s are very complex bikes – and in my case an issue has arisen under warranty that continues to fox experienced mechanics and the tech mob at KTM Australia – if we can fix the issue (and I expect we will eventually) then the bike may prove reliable – but is it a good ADV bike?
The jury is out on that one, IMO – complexity isn’t necessarily what you want – at this point I admit I would probably prefer a mint condition 625 SXC – similar specs to the 690, but SIMPLE and easily fixable ...
The BMW's I've had over the years have grown in electronic complexity greatly. Same thing as the Ducati's. My Multistrada is one complex piece of two wheels. Learning the switch gear language is like learning switchology in an F-16....you're playing a piccolo. The latest BMW's have all had FI that seems to work quite well. I personally have had no issues in the last 10 bikes and maybe 250,000 miles. Of course what I haven't done is dip them in mud as Seth relates. I use them, however. And I know the difference between use and abuse so I suspect I will get along just fine with my '10 690ER.
Anyway, I should finally have it next week. It will be in competition with my F8GS as an adventure bike. And by that I mean, a bike I can get lost in the mountains on 2000 miles from home and expect not to be bear food. So, all the better dirt attributes of the KTM will have to be matched by dead nuts reliability when I go on my annual adventure ride or it will end up just being an expensive stay near home DRZ. We shall see. Good to read all the experiences and fixes folks have had though.
you can believe this I'd generally consider Bob's advice sound where ever he sees fit to offer it.
You are much too kind and I am much too prone to step on it so let the reader beware, but thanks anyway.
I agree re' beemers - the difference being that BMW seem to have embraced technology and reliability as one - the two G650 X-Challenges we ride with are at least as capable as the 690 (with suspension mods), and appear to be bombproof - both close to 75,000km now, and all of that hard bush riding ...
I was tempted to get a Husky TE630 (still a few around then), but went with the KTM690 as I thought it was likely to be better sorted and more reliable - Husky sold very few TE630s here, as there were problems with 610 and the word got out that you couldn't depend on them - since buying the 690 (and spending a lot more on it than I would the TE630), I have come to realise that this bike is not in fact likely to be a more solid and reliable package than the 630 ...
Shame there's no more X-Challenges ..
Hopefully my current issue (which others seem to have experienced) will be rectifiable, and the rest of the bike will run reliably ...
Interesting comments about the Husky 610. I was told by the mechanics at Atlanta Husqvarna that the 610 was pretty much bullet proof and had reasonable service intervals, unlike the newer 630 which is service intensive like the smaller KTMs. Basically, I've been looking for a cross between my F8GS and DRZ 400. Something reliable, light, and worthy off-road. I hope I've found it in the 690. I think the one I'm getting is a good one, with practical upgrades and well cared for. So if it fails it'll be KTM's or my fault, not the PO's.
I'm not sure it matters. This shows both. Oh we are a buncha comma nazi's aren't we.
For sure. I think two t's is actually classical English, like flavour and shoppe. But like you said, either is correct.
To get back on track, look at what I just got...
As others have said, it's a bummer this will be mostly hidden.
That is a nice looking clutch slave cylinder.
Is this an Oberon-manufactured part ?
It's not 'classical English' - it's simply English as written in England, Australia and countries other than the US - who for some reason seem to need things to be phonetic - eg 'tyre' becomes 'tire' ...
I worked for a year for USDA in Colorado, and took great pleasure in ensuring that all my reports were written on a PC that had English as the default language - not US-English - endless complaints about 'specialise' (etc etc etc) - those reports never featured the word 'carburetted', but had they needed to ...
If you're searching for someone to blame you can start with the outfit below
(1) Aluminum VS (2) Aluminium. (1) Mostly an American spelling. (2) everyone else in the world.