New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. poondangle

    poondangle Slow

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    Took a peek, level looked OK. I just took the same route home, and the bike was doing the same thing. Hit the gas at 5k and revs shoot up to 8k, but no corresponding increase in power??? After a second, RPMs drop, and the bike makes power. It's just like the clutch is slipping?
  2. MrHix

    MrHix Been here awhile

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    If you worry, don't put one on. I worry more about the stock pedal bending easily and the pad breaking a hole in the clutch cover in the middle of nowhere. I laid the bike over in a gravel ditch when it stalled (where is my Rekluse?) and the pad bent up 90 degrees towards the clutch case. I know a small hole can be fixed with putty and oil can be replaced, but I can ride the bike for quite a distance without the rear brake (especially as someone said if it breaks at the pivot bolt).

    Your choice.

    Cheers,

    MrHix
  3. Roadracer_Al

    Roadracer_Al louder, louder, louder!

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    Sure sounds like it. Smell the engine oil -- does it smell burned? If so, it's definitely clutch.

  4. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Ordered! Now what about the toe tip part, dealer or is there something else out there? Part number? Mine is somewhere out in the woods still attached to the tip of my brake pedal.
  5. FriedDuck

    FriedDuck Why die all tensed up?

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    I had that happen after the bike had sat for a long time. It only happened once and I babied it for the rest of that trip. I don't know if it's sound logic but can that discs dry out after sitting for a long time (or at least the part that's not submerged in oil?)

    In any event it never recurred and so I didn't worry about it. Swapping the clutch pack is easy in any event if that turns out to be the issue.

    Jeff
  6. poondangle

    poondangle Slow

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    Interesting! I'm just having a hard time believing that the clutch is burned. Call me crazy, but I believe the first clutch should outlast the first tire :huh
  7. FriedDuck

    FriedDuck Why die all tensed up?

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    Someone did a nice write-up but I think it was lost in the megathread blow-up. It's an easy procedure, some notes from memory:

    --Obviously you'll be changing the oil too, so plan for that
    --Go ahead and soak the clutch discs when you get them. I think the kit says they need to soak for at least 2 hours?
    --You'll have to pull the footpeg mount (3 bolts) and the cover (9 bolts)
    --The outermost section of the pack has a convex-shaped ring and a half-size friction disk. Pay attention to which side of the ring is facing out. The remaining stuff is just alternating friction/steel disks.
    --Before disassembly note the arrow on the pressure plate (see pic below--it's pointing straight up) that lines up with a notch in the clutch pack. (I think it's a notch--i'll have to consult the service manual)
    --The service manual recommends using a factory tool (screws with a shoulder on them) to hold everything together during assembly. It's not necessary but it was a bit fussy getting everything lined up during reassembly. Not a big deal
    --Finally the bolts on the cover are 3 different sizes. There's 1 long, 2 medium, and then the rest are short. See the pic below.


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  8. poondangle

    poondangle Slow

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    Thanks. Doesn't seem too hard. I think I'll contact the dealer in the morning. Too bad he's 3 hours away. But I just feel this is a warranty issue. I'm both old and slow, and there's no way it should have gone this quickly.
  9. MrHix

    MrHix Been here awhile

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    I think that anything that fits the stock lever will work (may want to wait for confirmation). The CSE pedal uses the 2 bolts from the top to install the tip. I used the stock tip since I still had it. Looks like the Touratech folding tip MAY work (give em a call to make sure): http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...ing-brake-lever-attachment-kit-KTM-690-Enduro

    Cheers,

    MrHix
  10. RoninMoto

    RoninMoto Wanderer

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  11. Christophe

    Christophe weekend warrior

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    Sorry guys, I didn't mean to start a fight on the pedals, just to provide another opinion, which apparently some others here share.

    Anyway, in france the stock pedal is ~3x cheaper than the stronger pedals (incl delivery and taxes). I have protected the engine case with the glue-on side protector from G-it (I busted a hole there falling on a rock, costly repair, learnt the lesson and added the protection, and it now also protects the engine case from the twisting brake pedal). I also guess that KTM has made the pedals weak for a reason, not just to sell lots of them every year. I also understand that for some riders it is too weak, and a stronger unit is better.

    If the stronger brake pedal was only slightly more expensive than the stock unit, and if it was designed to bend or break BEFORE twisting the footpeg bracket or frame, then I would buy it. Has anyone bent or broken the RR or CS pedals?
  12. GezwindeSpoed

    GezwindeSpoed Been here awhile

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    Just back from the Hellas rally. Bike performed flawlessly, no maintenance needed. Replaced air filter once (was not really dirty) and mounted my spare wheel because the rocks ate my rear tire for lunch. Became 3rd in my class (a lot of 690's).

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  13. GezwindeSpoed

    GezwindeSpoed Been here awhile

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    Once is enough
  14. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    Aftermarket was cheaper than stock piece for me :huh. I had not considered the brake pedal being designed to fail to spare other more expensive bits so it's good to hear both sides of the discussion on whether stronger is better. I ended up going with stronger part in this case, but also added the adv-spec covers to protect the cases.

    I'd be interested to hear if anyone has had a problem with the aftermarket piece causing damaged to the mounting point.
  15. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

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    Is there anybody on this forum who has had frame damage or at least damaged the brake pedal mount while using the Rally Raid or Cleanspeed brake pedals on their 690?
  16. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    I believe I speak for myself when i say no. :D

    The hit would have to be significant...and such a hit is likely to destroy a lot of other pieces...including the rider...in the process.
  17. Seth S

    Seth S Will _____ for _____

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    The mounting point is not part of the steel frame but part of a bolt on aluminum piece that is mounted with 3 bolts to the frame. Though I am sure its possible to hit the brake pedal in such a way that frame damage would occur...but I suspect its such a rare scenario you are unlikely to see it.
  18. FriedDuck

    FriedDuck Why die all tensed up?

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    Lukas,

    I had a minor spill on that bent the touratech folding tip but didn't do damage to either the pedal or frame.

    Jeff
  19. shipwrek12001

    shipwrek12001 Shipwrek

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    4 long and one short code.... already chged the fuel pump... w/ ca cycle pump...

    failed last fall no codes, I'm sure someone has the video for that..:huh failed in my drive way a month or more ago setting the 4L1S code, chged the fuel pump... had a grnd failure a week ago, fixed that easily, then failed again yesterday 4L1S code again.... wtf........................:huh

    no sound from the fuel pump to be heard..........
  20. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Been here awhile

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    Lukas,

    In 3 years of selling our Billet Rear Brake Pedal,I have never heard of one causing damage to the alloy footrest hanger.We have never had a pedal break,only a couple of the pressed steel tips flatten,and we sell those as a spare part.

    As with all things,its a personal decision,but we sell as many Billet Front Sprocket Protecters/Clutch cylinder protector,and you could argue that if a stone went through it and wedged between the sprocket,then it could break the screws into the crankcases,whereas the OEM plastic one might break/deform......as I said,it's the riders choice.

    Personally,I want something fitted to the bike that is not going to break easily on a long trip,and let me down.