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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by crankshaft, Sep 6, 2011.
Thanks for the reply. I bought some 10 mm ones at cycle gear. Sure enough they were 1.25 pitch. I had to get some 10x1.5mm cap bolts at the hardware store.
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It's Win 7. Don't have Firefox loaded. Maybe I need to give that a try.
Tried my wife's pc, and had the same issue, though she is also Win 7 with IE 10 and we both use the same anti malware software. Usually if Vipre is stopping me from seeing something though, the screen is full of "Vipre boxes" and warnings. What I'm seeing is the header of the web page, but all of the contents just quickly appear and then disappear.
They also have a couple other functions.
If you're seeing the same issue on two different computers running the same anti-malware software, then that may be the problem. If both Chrome and IE10 are having problems then it's something unrelated to the browser afaict.
New brakes & fluid, rear rotor, new chain and sprockets (14/48), new fork oil, new rockers (valves set to maximum clearance). Motor runs quiet like I never remember it ever running. Doesn't even sound like KTM.
It sounds like the 1.25 pitch is for a kawi. Glad you got it figured out, easy fix!
Good to hear. My motor is about to get same treatment and possibly a new cam chain+tensioner to boot. Hope it cures the rattling noise some.
I replaced my camchain, guides and sprockets on my 2008 with 50,000km this winter. I did it when I updated the cam because the auto decompress was kuput. The camchain showed almost no wear. You might try the manual tensioner before going into the motor.
Apparently you can get the cam out without pulling the motor. I couldn't figure out how to do it. I've also heard you can get the cam chain out without pulling the cam. I haven't had to do this either. In any case, good luck. Post what you do/find.
Noah - thanks for the heads up. Motor needs to be opened up and a few things checked. Sounds luck a bucket of bolts rattling around after last trip. How often do you adjust/check the manual tensioner?
When i remember
1/2 oilchange interval. loosen the nut.. start the bike.. turn the bolt by hand.. turn off the bike.. tighten the nut. works great. No more rattle on start up. and if you do ever hear a rattle, you know its not your auto tensioner taking a shit.
Doubletakes are the way to go with the stock mounting arrangement. Having tried both, short RAM Mounts are key for limiting vibration. My only complaint is that adjustments on the fly are not easy. One tip I think we got from Ged awhile back was to coat both the ball and the RAM socket with liquid electrical tape. I've done this and it helps on both fronts.
I've not tried the HDB set-up, but it's next on the list for my SE...
I put score marks on the ball of the mirror to keep it from moving.
Ram mount makes what they call their Super Ball. It's textured for limited slip. Works great. Too bad I let it go when I sold the XC.
A few days ago I posted a thread about a ticking noise in my 2010 with 7500 miles. Well, I decided to check the valve clearance and I believe I have found the noise. My exhaust vale clearances were .53mm. 4x the Allowable max clearance. I figured that the only way this could be is that if the rocker shaft or the roller was worn out. I removed the rocker and have found a lot of slop in the roller. I have never read of this happening. it seems that when i have read of rocker trouble, it has been because the roller froze up. Can someone tell me if there is supposed to be any play, whether sideways or up and down in the rollers on the 690. Also, can someone tell me of a good source for these rockers and on these bikes, as the mileage increases, do the valve clearances increase or decrease with this roller rocker system? Thanks so much for the help.
If someone could point me in the right direction, I would be very grateful
Keeping this as short as possible (not likely, sorry)
2011 KTM 690 w/ 5,500 miles
Bike has run awesome since i brought it home. *This is not a fuel pump or tank bolt problem (sorry for those who have dealt with that, but you have helped others like myself learn from it and I for one am very very grateful)
Step by step:
Stock for 4k miles - great
installed wings exhaust (rode for couple hundred miles) - awesome
Took a breath, got rid of the emission components entirely, installed RR tanks - ran great
Going on a trip that will cover thousands of miles coming up in September, decided to get the valves checked by a professional and have them map the bike with akro map - great, in spec
Same professional let me know upon pickup that they cleaned/fiddled with my throttle position control sensor.
Bike now stalls after 3 seconds.
Takes about 3-4 times of continued retry's for it to stay running. Once running everything is A ok.
Bike has never failed to start on first try.
I called them up, took the bike back and now they call me to tell me that there is a throttle position emergency fault or something.
"Casey, we found a emergency fault in the throttle postion sensor"
"Casey, in order to start the bike you are going to have hit the starter, then hold the throttle partially open for 30 seconds. The bike will then be fine"
"seriously? I brought the bike to you running and starting on first push. You did a valve check and messed with my TPCS..now I have to hold the the throttle open to start it?"
I'll get the particulars tomorrow when I pick it up.
The guy I'm talking to is just the middle man. It's a big dealership with many brands. I did make a point to talk with the mechanic prior to any work to gauge him & he was confident, owned a KTM himself (two stroke, mid 90's)
I'm aggravated, but honestly I'm not even trying to point the finger at the dealer...well, it is there meddling that has changed my bike into a prude on startup. But what I mean by that it is, I'm a shitty mechanic and can only blame myself. This is the first time I took it to the dealer. Everything else was done in a garage at my friends house (thanks friend)
long ass explanation. I'm just looking for a link, an exchange of a phone call, a PM, i'll take whatever is given by the community. I just need to figure this out. From what I have read, I'm pretty certain it is something screwy with my throttle position control sensor. Especially since they messed with it, like I said.
They did offer to take the bike back after the weekend (i'm going riding)..but my confidence is not so high with them.
Can you share what dealer that is?
It is a known problem which occurs with some frequency to the 690 motors, particularly 2008's. Described here recently in my 2008 and the result after installing new rockers.
Thanks DJ for your response. We're your rollers sloppy. My valve clearances were s far out that I was amazed the bike ran well. Did you get the rollers through your dealer or elsewhere? Should my target clearances be to the.07mm end or the .13mm end? Thanks