New bike, need a new GPS

Discussion in 'GPS 101 - Which GPS For Me' started by Epy, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Epy

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    Just got a brand new CRF250L. Before I go get myself lost in some forest, I want to get a GPS.

    Never bought a GPS before...don't really know what to look for. Only things I really care about are a good ability to get satellites and accurate maps so it's still useful when I'm on dirt road XYZ. On a limited budget. Again, really just looking for something super reliable without bells and whistles.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated. Oh, and something that can be mounted on the handlebars of course :1drink
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  2. Emmbeedee

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    The best budget gps you can get right now is the Garmin 78 from West Marine for $200.
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    +1, just remember you will want maps ($ or open-source) and a mount, RAM is good and low buck.

    Bruce
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  4. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    OP, what features do you require? For example, do you need turn-by-turn directions?
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  5. Countdown

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    Any hand held will do what you want for a GPS. E-Trex/60/76/62/78

    HOWEVER There are no maps that you are looking for.

    All Forests in he US have done Travel Management to determine which existing routes are open to motorized travel. None of the map makers have imported this data into their maps.

    Having said that, the very old Garmin Roads & Rec map set does show most routes in the forest but you have no idea where Wilderness Area are adn which trails that show on the map are open.
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    I really don't need any features, just a map view of where I am. Altitude would be nice if possible.

    @Countdown, you're saying that no forest routes are in GPS maps?
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  7. Countdown

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    Most hand held GPS does not come with maps, you buy maps and then load them into GPS.

    R & R and Topo has most routes but you don't know if they are legal.

    City Nav will not show any trails.

    People use GPS for navagating planned Tracks not as a map. If that is what you want, just get paper map form Froest service.
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    I might just do that...thanks for the advice.
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    NO, he is not saying that.
    City Navigator has many Forest Service roads on it and many other dirt roads, just not all. All the roads on City Navigator are routable.
    City Navigator is a good road map
    If I am off the map, say on a road not on the map, I can still navigate by direction. I have a target I want to get too and my GPS unit will point the way I need to go to get to my target.
    Also my GPS does Tracks, so if I am off the map I can always follow my track back out too. On some units, you can draw your own Tracks on your computer at home, downloaded into the GPS and have it to follow.
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    The OP never said anything about Navagating, he is just trail riding around the forest. He is not going on a planed ride. He is thinking maps, and thinks a GPS will show him a neat map with a "you are here" arrow like we see on giant PC screen.

    The problem is that as all we users know, a small screen hand held is useless as a map. If you zoom in so you can see the road you are on, you can't see anything else. If you zoom out so you can see what's around, you can't see the roads.
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    Careful what you wish for, it's coming.

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    Yes, I know and I understand completely the type of riding he is contemplating. I did it myself for years on a dirt bike. Then you could legally ride on any trail or dirt road and I was never bothered on the paved roads. Roamed and explored the El Dorado National Forest and would get myself so lost. Boy, it was fun but it would have been wonderful having my GPS then.
    As fun as those rides were my GPS would have enhanced them:deal
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  15. mpatch

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    Why would this be a bad thing?
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    Yes they did a great job. That is nice for the many people who trailer there, unload, and ride around but Duals Sport and Adv riders need the information integrated into big maps.

    There is another group, Friends of Jawbone and California Trail Users Coalition that are doing something like that at OwlsheadGPS.com
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  17. mpatch

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    When installing the map you can select add to existing maps and it will overlay other maps or you can download the IMG file and use gmap to install it into mapsource or base camp. I currently have it installed with CNNA, OSM, and my trails
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  18. River Pilot

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    Good afternoon Epy,

    You might find this information helpful.

    Regarding maps, whether City Navigator or TOPO, this information should prove useful.

    River Pilot
    Cheyenne, WY. U.S.A.
    Web: www.riverspilot.com
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  19. Countdown

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    You need to contact the experts on this. Try WildHog (Scott).

    In general, no with Garmin maps. You can have several installed but only see one at once. However I think there are some non-Garmin maps that are transparent and do overlay.
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  20. mpatch

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    You can make any map overlay or transparent using map set toolkit. Most garmin maps have a priority of 30 ( the highest is 31) so any map that's lower than that and not transparent will be hidden by the higher priority map. I tried making OSM overlay CNNA but it screwed up auto routing.
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