New BMW G650X (merged) threadfest...

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by mr moto, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Looks like it's slotted pretty competitively.
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  2. Big77

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    and there goes the bank
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  3. Hair

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    I've said it before and I will say it again. BMW always lies about fuel capacity and weight. It never fails.
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  4. SPEd600

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    The last bit is interesting:

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  5. Yellow Pig

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    Looks like the Hard Enduro will be a stripped down version of the Aprilia Trail:

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    and the Xmoto a rebadged Aprilia Strada:

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  6. GB

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    I like the looks of those G class bikes.... so why keep the F650GS alive if they can just create a GS out of the new G class, and other G class derived bikes; enduro, etc.. who will want to buy an F650 when they can have a choice of these?? I guess price will be higher on these..

    Something new to :tb over. :thumb
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  7. SPEd600

    SPEd600 GSDude was pwned

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    looks a sight better than this :1drink

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  8. dirtypumpkin

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  9. BuckRider

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    The Aprilia Pegaso 650 Trail is the Italian version of the F650GS already. As you've already seen from the Aprilia website - it has very similar specs and components. Aprilia has slightly larger fork tube diameter, and I think it has a dual piston on the front brakes, but has much less alternator output, same weight and suspension. Engine is also different because of BMW licensing with Rotax for their version of the 652 (output is on opposite side of engine). You probably also know that Aprilia and BWM worked together on the F650 years ago, and some generations of the F650 were actually produced and assembled by Aprilia. The new G650 appears to have same engine as current F650 - based on the picture above.

    It'll be real interesting to see how the specs really do play out, and how much lighter the bike really is, and if it has serious enough suspension to get it done in the woods.

    Don't know if it will be an "F" killer, as it looks like it is made for a single rider only, and who knows how strong the subframe is for carrying extra "adventure" wear/gear through the woods. Seat looks like a typical enduro - short ride seat.

    Wish we had a better picture - looks like the frame for the XChallenger is different than the X-Country and X-Moto. Engine side case also looks different than current engine, but water pump looks the same.

    I wonder what the price point will be if BMW is trying to attract more younger riders?

    Hmmmm......can't wait to see more.....
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  10. Max Kool

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    The current Aprilia Pegaso (both the trail and the "SM" version) are built around a Yamaha engine. That new BMW seems to be sporting a revised version of the engine found in the F650GS. No similarities here.

    The new BMW has USD forks on every version, where the Apriller has conventional ones. The Aprilia has the chain on the left side, where the BMW has it on the right side. I do not see many similarities between these two bikes, and I'm pretty sure that apart from things like controls, the wheels on the SM version, and the brakes, there aren't that much common parts. Not the frame, and not the engines.

    The die hard version will not be a stripped down Aprilia Pegaso trail, but more some sort of a well built LC4 competitor imho.

    I might even want one!
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  11. barbasma

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    the G650 are made by APRILIA...

    and soon comes APRILIA V450 and V550 BMW marked... HP1!!!!:huh
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  12. Dirt Hugger

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    Xchallenge Hard Enduro - sounds promising! :clap

    I am drooling already...
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  13. rallybug

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  14. Dirt Hugger

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    Oh yeah!

    URL please?
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  15. rallybug

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    Raptors & Rockets.

    Click on the Imtermot 2006 link at the top of that page to see what the other manufacturers are revealing. The main Intermot page says that he has more BMW pictures to put up in the next few hours.
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  16. atoms

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    It seems to me like there is a giant gaping gap in the middle of the BMW line up. A bunch of small thumpers on the low end (I'm sure they are fun, but useless for my purposes - long tours) and a huge expensive kitchen sink 1200GS at the other end - and nothing in between.

    Kinda forces a guy to look at the Buell...
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  17. rallybug

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    The gap is where the proposed F800GS parallel twin would fit in, as and when it is released.
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  18. Some Dude

    Some Dude what attitude problem???

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  19. atoms

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    Well yeah. But parallel twin? Chain drive? Will it also be liquid cooled? Yuk.

    Or is that all speculation at this point?
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  20. Starstriker

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    BMW are currently showing their new bikes at the Intermot in Cologne Germany. There are more models on the way. Look out for pictures......:huh
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