New body design from CSM?

Discussion in 'Hack Vendors' started by claude, May 15, 2012.

  1. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    These are pics of Watsonian Sidecars we mounted on late model triumphs.
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    This on is a Steib reproduction we mounted to a BMW CL.

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    We are really considering doing a CSM body style similar to these soon. The body would be made in 1/8" aluminum. Probably would have a larger trunk area and possibly a lockable glove box. Looking for feedback....Thoughts??
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  2. Melrone

    Melrone Been here awhile

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    Very nice..Its really nice to so though tubs coming back...Go for it..Like they say ...If you build it they will come...Nice job Claude...Bert
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  3. kshansen

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    I like the style. I would have put one on my short list if it was available when I got the Hannigan Classic for my Sportster.
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  4. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    I've always liked the looks of the nose of Watsonian and Steib tubs. The Steib tub looks like it would be difficult to climb into.
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  5. YOUNZ

    YOUNZ Been here awhile

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    THE POPULATION IS OLDER. ESPECIALLY SIDECARISTS. WE NEED SOMETHING NOT TOO DIFFICULT TO ENTER AND GET SEATED! :wink:
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  6. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    Really nice job Claude. Congradulations on a new addition to your designs.:clap
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  7. BeeMaa

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    I really like the looks of the one on the Triumph.
    Nice job Claude.
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  8. Wingincamera

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    I like the looks of the Watsonian rig, but like the poster above said, it needs to be easy to get in and out of. For my wife that is why we purchased the Escort rig.
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  9. zenduddhist

    zenduddhist Been here awhile

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    I agree, Claude, it needs to be easy to get in and out...
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  10. Billtr96sn

    Billtr96sn Flange Furtler

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    Why make a new egg? Whats wrong with using Watsonian chairs?
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  11. kshansen

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    I'm guessing one big advantage is Claude's ability to custom build each one to work best with the tug and the operator. Sometimes it's easier to build from the start with the intended finished product in mind than to take a more or less off the shelf item then modify it to that purpose.
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  12. 4PawsHacienda

    4PawsHacienda Been here awhile

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    Love the classic looks, modern conveniences too tempting to pass up. Trunk and glovebox become necessities once you get spoiled.
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  13. zenduddhist

    zenduddhist Been here awhile

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    Well, it looks like I am going to be Claude's guinea pig on his new style of sidecar. He is going to mount it on my 2010 Triumph Bonneville T-100. Hopefully, either Claude or myself will be able to add pictures as the sidecar develops.

    Why did I choose to let Claude build one rather than buy a new Watsonian? I suppose it has to do with having a dedicated, master craftsman building a high quality sidecar rather than buying something "off the rack". Not that either one of those cars are inferior, but what a neat experience this could be! I had approached Claude with the idea of adding a Watsonian or Steib type sidecar to my bike, but I wasn't sure what exactly I wanted. He told me that he was thinking about designing a new style based on the Watsonian/Steib look. Wondered if I would be interested? Seemed like a great opportunity for the both of us...

    It's pretty cool to be able to talk to the guy who is building your sidecar and having a small part in the design. I am very excited and Claude seems to be pretty excited about it also.

    I am open to any questions, comments, suggestions, opinions, rants, jokes and harrassment...

    Thanks,

    Chris McCarthy
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  14. kailuasurfer

    kailuasurfer Dreamer

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    Chris, glad to hear that you decided to use your T-100 to attach a sidecar to. Claude is great to work with!
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  15. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Here are some various other sidecars with the same idea on the nose. Prior to the advent of fiberglass bodies becomong popular there were some creative sidecar body shapes done with little to no real compound curves.
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  16. JustKip

    JustKip Long timer

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    I have a question.
    I've always liked Triumph "Modern Classics" except thier fuel range. What will the tub do to the already too low (just over 100 mi) fuel range?
    Is it possible to fit the classic looking tub with a large transfer tank?
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  17. IsAnOzzie

    IsAnOzzie Been here awhile

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    I have always liked the classic style of these sidecars.
    If Claude makes a body like this it will be great.
    Unfortunately I am in Australia so Claude's Skills are not available to me, (I did suggest he moved to Australia)
    I have a chassis and want to have a crack at fabricating my own body, Aluminuim with copper rivets over a light frame.
    The bike is a 2009 Kawasaki VN1700 so I think the classic style will match up well.
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  18. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    This body will be built with TIG welded aluminum. We have not done a steel body in quite a while although we still offer them. The steel is 16gauge and the aluminum is 1/8". The aluminum seems to weight about 30% less than the steel for the same size and shape body.
    Here are a few pictures of the building process:

    The buck or whatever you want to call it:
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    The mock up made from foil finished insulation over the buck:
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    The process of fitting all the Pieces together. This is Kinda tedious. Notice the squared off edges around the cowling at the cockpit. This will be formed more into an arc back at the cockpit area as we proceed.
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    More to come.......
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  19. claude

    claude Sidecar Jockey

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    Okay things are progressing. Here are pics of the TIG welded aluminum body in the rough.Our bodies are welded inside and out. The outside will be dressed up prior to actual finishing.
    Welded nose. Yep it fit up just fine:
    Nose with CNC Machined CSM emblem mocked up in center.
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    From the inside looking out. Yes we were able to round th ecorners around the front of the coickpit. This one is not destined for a glove box but one could be done easily that would have quite a lot of room.
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    We sat the body on another frame just to see how it may look. The actual frame for this new body design will deviate from our typical design somewhat and will have a different fender.
    This bmw bike belongs to Frank DelTorre and will be getting a cargo box tub on it that is now at powdercoat.
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  20. DirtyDR

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    Looks good Claude.
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