New Delorme PN-40

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by rwamf, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. rwamf

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    Looks like they made some serious improvements,
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    * NEW! Super high-sensitivity 32-channel Cartesio chipset by STMicroelectronics delivers near-instantaneous signal acquisition and ConstantLock™ satellite retention
    * NEW! Dual-core processor for rapid screen re-draws, even with large aerial imagery files
    * NEW! 500 MB of onboard Flash memory (1 GB total hard drive)
    * NEW! 3-axis electronic compass with included accelerometer performs when held in any position—while in motion or standing still
    * NEW! Sensitive barometric altimeter for reliably accurate altitude readings
    * NEW! Supports SDHC high-capacity SD cards—32 GB or higher
    * NEW! Fast USB 2.0 data transfer to internal memory or SD card in device
    * NEW! More detailed onboard base map data for the U.S., now with secondary and connector roads (along with major highways and thoroughfares for the entire world)
    * 65K-color daylight-readable TFT screen for clarity in any light conditions
    * WAAS-enabled for accuracy within 3 meters
    * Topo USA 7.0 software with complete U.S topo and street maps included—no extra purchase required. Also displays USGS 7.5-min quads, aerial imagery, and NOAA nautical charts via online download from DeLorme
    * PN-40 scheduled for Fall 2008 release
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  2. Dr.Z

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    Anybody out there in ADV world have one of these? :ear I'm curious to see if it's faster than the PN-20 and how it compares to the Garmin 60csx. I like the Delorme maps but I wish the PN-20 had faster screen redraws and routing capabilities. :deal
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  4. rwamf

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    Still not released, should be in my hands by the end of the month.
    The reviews I have read say it is almost instantaneous on the screen redraws even with high resolution color imagery, and it also keeps you centered on the screen now , so is it faster than the 20, it is WAY FASTER. also the screen scrolling is very fast too.
    I will give a review once I have time to test it out.,
    The subscription service for high resolution imagery is online and is fantastic ( $30 year) I have already download a bunch of stuff I plan on riding next year, very neat.
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  5. Dr.Z

    Dr.Z 6Sigma Knuckle Shflr

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    Great! Thanks. I went to their website and it looks like they are shipping the new units. Just didn't know if anybody played around with one yet. I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger on the 40 until I read some positive feedback. BTW, the PN-20 was the first GPS that I bought and never checked Garmin or other units before I bought the 20. The Garmin 60CSX is blazing fast on the screen redraws and auto route when compared with the 20. :bluduh

    I'm looking forward to your review of the 40! :lurk
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  6. bombarde

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    Nope. Still taking pre-orders.
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  8. Dr.Z

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    There's a few reviews on the Delorme forums about the new unit. Looks promising. I'm still going to wait several months before ordering one to make sure any bugs (if any) are worked out. :deal
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    But the PN20 is much better at keeping tracks and for me I like having a record of where I've been more than autorouting.

    I'm also keeping a strong eye on the PN40, especially since I already have the cradle, travel kit, etc from the 20.:lol3
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    Jonnylotto Zipper Club with Clusters

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    Just a heads up:

    http://thegpsstore.com has the PN 40 for 349.95, $50 bucks off retail.:wings

    I just ordered one with $9.95 second day air UPS shipping. :lol3
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    Nice! :clap
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    Any in depth reviews on this unit yet? :ear
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  13. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider

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    Am I to assume you purchased a subscription but don't have the PN-40? But you do have the PN-20?

    What format are the maps: jpeg, pict, tiff, other proprietary?

    How do you download the maps: click and save? Or do you need proprietary software?

    Is there a sample available?

    I'm thinking I'd lke to subscribe if I could use the data in off-the-shelf mapping software (not XMap or Topo USA).
    Or maybe buy Topo USA just to be able to access the maps on my PC, nevermind getting a PN-xx.
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  14. rwamf

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    I have a PN-20 and got my PN-40 last week, The two are the same size and shape but that is where the similarities end, The 40 is so much faster , the 20 is never going to be used again.
    I had a good chance to use the 40 this weekend and it did a stellar job, I down loaded some color aerial images for the area we were riding and they were very handy, The screen redraws are very fast and scrolling is easier than ever. It's track logging is great and the auto save when full is great.
    As far as the data I do not believe you can use it in anything but Delorme software . Topo 7.0 is great, and it comes with the PN-40, It is the best deal for small handheld GPS's right now.
    The screen is very easy to see in daylight and the topo maps are the best for a handheld, Not all cluttered up like the Garmin Topo.
    You can turn off the topo detail and make the maps look like street maps and it does "Auto Routing" which is usable unlike the PN-20's which was worthless.
    This is the GPS of choice for my Dirt bikes.
    that is till the PN-60???
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    To repeat:
    What format are the maps: jpeg, pict, tiff, other proprietary?
    How do you download the maps: click and save? Or do you need proprietary software?


    How reasonable would it be to use Topo USA on my PC to import and export gpx files that will be on my PC and use the subscription to access very good maps? I will use other software and another GPS receiver to take care of my route and track log data collection. I don't want to buy the PN-40 at this time; maybe a larger screen PN-xx later. So I'm proposing to keep my current GPS receivers (not Delorme) but use the Delorme software for on-the-computer planning and review. I do not auto route, computer or receiver.
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  16. rwamf

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    They are Delorme proprietary maps.
    You have to download them in Topo 7.0 and it is very easy but time consuming as the files are quite large.
    Topo 7.0 allows you to import and save track files as "gpx"
    I only use my Topo 7 for route planning and creating tracks, The program does have a learning curve but once you get used to it it is amazing and very powerful.
    I put all the image files I download on an external drive so I can view them on my work PC.
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  17. dlh62c

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    I received my PN-40 last week... being my first GPS, I'm happy so far. TOPO7 has been the real struggle...as someone else said it has a steep learning curve.

    I didn't want a large screen size. I wanted something that was small and portable for hiking, motorcycle riding and geocaching.

    I attached some screen shots of the PN-40 display and the trail route I set up in TOPO7. I downloaded the aerial image just for the trail. It doesn't take long to eat up the $40 worth of free images from Delorme. This is were the subscription would come in handy. TOPO7 displays the blocks you have already downloaded aerial images for... so you don't down load them again.

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    Nice looking maps --- sucky looking route/track representation. (so's the Garmin -- I hate the "white-worms")

    I tried looking at the same area in both an older Garmin Topo and in CN NA 2008 and there are significant differences in what they show as the secondary roads. (Too lazy to post the screen shots right now)

    The ability to look at the aerial images must be a real help in determining the ground truth. That alone may be enough to convince me once again to put up with the arcane Delorme interface.
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  19. dlh62c

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    Thanx

    I don't pretend to know anything about TOPO7. I'm a noob at the whole GPS thing. Any prior road trips... I just wrote the directions on my motorcycle windshield with a red white board marker. Kinda like a poor man's heads up display.

    I just thought people would like to see several screen shots of an aerial image on the PN-40's display at different zoom levels. I haven't seen any posted anywhere else yet.

    daryl
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    fendermon Been here awhile

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    Impressive... to be sure.:1drink
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