New Elite 80 for me...

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by Srbenda, Apr 3, 2006.

  1. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    I just put a deposit on this 1998 Honda Elite 80. Only has 1100 miles, but has been sitting for some time...It runs, but roughly. A quick carb cleanup will do the trick, I'm sure, and it will be good practice for Mrs. Breadman while the Stella is still in surgery.

    What a deal too....

    $350...:clap

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  2. JohnTM

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    Good bargain! Nothing like having one that was so cheap you don't mind if it falls over or whatever. It's liberating.
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  3. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    ..Or stolen! Or has all the shiny bits taken off and painted in flat black!

    ( I think that's my plan now)


    This oculd become my true Battle Scooter! :lol3
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    $350???? :eek1

    :baldy

    Great deal.

    Back when I had the Vento -- Ilmostro cut me a great deal on it -- I was able to recoup the purchase price in 3 months of commuting and from then on out I was putting money in my pocket--enough to make another car payment if I wanted to, or just pig out on delivery pizza. Cheap scoots are REALLY cool. :nod
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    Nice looking $350 scooter. I found a 150 Elite last year for about the same price. Rode it for a month and a half then sold it for an additional $500, and it was still a good deal at that price.

    Cheap Elites and Riva's can be found more readily than most scoots 'cause it seems most scooter folk turn there nose up at them. Styling is pretty dated these days, but they still run and ride well after much abuse.
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  6. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    I'm getting the scoot tomorrow. I know it needs a carb cleaning.

    Can I accomplish this with carb cleaner without dissasembling the entire carb, or can I just do it in one piece?

    the scoot is running now, so I know that it is not too bad gummed up.
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  8. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    I rode it this AM for the first time. Top speed is about 15 mph. It just bogs down, and runs like $hit.

    Firstly, I've got to figure out how to actually get at the motor. This came with no manual, so I don't want to start taking off pieces until I know I'm headed in the right direction.

    I know it can't be anything badly wrong...look at the mileage. :clap

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  9. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    Well I got into Elite today...

    The battery needs to be replaced, but I was able to keep charging it enough to keep starting it.

    I changed the plug out and it ran better. I got it up to around 20 mph top speed. However, it was skipping pretty badly.

    I brought it back, and checked the plug, and it was pretty dark wet....I pulled the air intake and shot some WD-40 down in the carb...

    Now it won't start at all.

    So it looks like a complete carb tear-down is in the works. I've never done this, but I think the Elite is a good way to start....

    Any tips?

    PS - Once all the tupperware is pulled off of the scoot it is really easy access to most everything...
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  10. brockster

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    See if you can get the carb to dry out a bit from the WD40. (I would of sprayed some WD also).

    Spray some starting fluid into the spark plug hole and into the carb. (Replace the spark plug). Try to start it then.

    Periodically, my wife's Nissan would start running like crap - two bottles of fuel injector cleaner in a full tank of gas usually cleared things up by the end of the tank.

    See if running a bit of that stuff in your gas will help ungunk the passages. (Yes, I know it isn't fuel-injected!):D

    Have you checked the jetting?
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  11. Srbenda

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    I have not checked the jetting yet, because it is a CV carb...real weird looking little thing. I'm hardly a mechanical genius as is, so digging into a unfamiliar carb was too much for yesterday.

    I will try some starting fluid, and if that fails, then I'll just pull the carb out and try and clean/ rebuild. I'm not even sure where the jets are...:lol3
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    You could probably rustle up a clymers for it for about $20. Might be worth it to avoid some headache.
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    My father in law just gave me one. Low miles. like new. anyone near providence, RI interested??
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    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    Hey!!!


    Yours is as ugly as mine! :lol3
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  17. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    Got Elite running again. (I had the kill switch on):rofl

    Anyway, I seem to have a more serious problem. After messing with the carb a bit, and still having problems, I pulled the air filter completely off.

    The scoot ran like a champ.

    When I pulled back into the garage, I saw that a oil/gas mixture was draining back out of the air intake tube. :huh

    I started it up, and blue smoke came out of the pipe. Not good.

    There is so much of it, it almost seems to be fed into the motor. I think I will pull all the tubes out of the carb and see if some brilliant back yard mechanic decided it was a 2-stroke and it needed oil injection...

    That's the only thing I can think of now. I cannot otherwise imagine how oil would be getting into the carb.

    Any other thoughts?
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  18. Srbenda

    Srbenda Embassy of South Carolina

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    Nope. Pulled the fuel line and it was pure gas-o-line.

    So where the f*ck is the oil coming from in such quantities?
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    <<<<<...... see if some brilliant back yard mechanic decided it was a 2-stroke and it needed oil injection...

    That's the only thing I can think of now. I cannot otherwise imagine how oil would be getting into the carb.

    Any other thoughts?>>>>>[/quote]

    It's been(is) overfilled w/ oil. This model has a "red flag" on the dash that trips every 1000 miles and many people think that means to add oil.
    Get the carb cleaned out, make sure the right amount of oil is in the crankcase and dump the excess out of the muffler4. The rest will burn out of the pipe.
    Like all scooters, but more so on the Elite 80, tighten the bolts that secure the pipe to the head first, then the muffle mounts.
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  20. Srbenda

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    It's been(is) overfilled w/ oil. This model has a "red flag" on the dash that trips every 1000 miles and many people think that means to add oil.
    Get the carb cleaned out, make sure the right amount of oil is in the crankcase and dump the excess out of the muffler4. The rest will burn out of the pipe.
    Like all scooters, but more so on the Elite 80, tighten the bolts that secure the pipe to the head first, then the muffle mounts.[/quote]

    That was part of it, in addition, the crankcase vent is still blowing out oil droplets...(???) so I've got to figure that out.

    New plug, new air filter, and it seems to be running pretty well.
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