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Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by bjorn_dakar, May 2, 2013.
but atleast im touchén that ass tonight
Ah yes. When your fully loaded 800 is lying upside down and you can't pick it up all you need to do is think about how great it looks and feels riding down the hwy. lol.
No really that is a point for the f8.
lol or riding that great looking GSA if the head belonging to that ass decides it has a headache or read this post
Whine, bitch, moan, complain. In a few years when your wife is driving you around in the car, you're wearing Depends, breakfast consists of an assortment of pills, you go to the bathroom 10 times a night and sex is something you remember doing, it isn't going to matter much if the guy rode a Suzuki, KTM, BMW and it won't matter what size engine that's in it...you'll just miss riding and would ride a washing machine if it took you deep into the back woods. We argue about such stupid things.
Here...watch this video and then just go out and ride!
lol however at least when he gets off his f800 his ass doesn't feel like its being past around like candy at a prison..
Not to mention he will get off the bike about 2 hours before the g650 rider due to speed..
But the one denominator in this is you dont buy a bike to lay it upside down in the first place. But if you do, a wet weight of a G650 192kg (+ luggage) still isnt going to be light to pick up..
But if your riding a f800 that fr 230mm/rr 215mm suspension might give you the ground clearance/better travel you needed to not hit the rock that tipped you in the first place compared to the G650's fr 170mm/rr 140mm..
your right! and fkn awesome video!!
Speed racer should work for BMW marketing.
This thread is supposed to be about the GSA and why it's an alternative to other bikes in the market place. Like many things in life, the GSA is a compromise.
For the weight, the price, the performance and the capability, the BMW is NOT a step up from a 650, in my humble opinion as the owner of both.
It's an alternative to a 650. As in, if you did more freeway work than dirt, you'd buy the 800, more off road work than freeway you'd go for a 650. Any 650.
The F8GSA weighs the same as the older model R1200GS. At best it comes within a tank of fuel of it. Sure, the weight balance in an F8 is better. Barely.
Is an F8 better on the freeway than a big single....yeah....only just, the more freeway you do the betteran alternative it is. Is it lighter and easier to handle in the dirt than a 1200....barely. Is it better on the open road than a 1200...any 1200 adventure bike...not by a long shot. Not even close.
Get over the fact you dropped the coin on a BMW. It's just a BMW. It is in no way the best manufacturer in the market. It is just another manufacturer in the market. Depending on what you want it for it may well float your boat.
That's the reality of the situation. Yes, I have an F800GS, I have 2 x DR650, and I have a ZX6. I love my F800, but it is nothing like yours, it is very different to the GSA model. I wouldn't waste the money on the GSA model. The GSA has more in common with the 600~650 class, and in some ways more in common with the 1200 class than is good for it.
And yes, the KTM1190AdvR is a game changer. To be honest, I think BMW wont even attempt to tackle it head on in the market. They will offer an alternative either side of it, and spend as little as possible on the R and F series. Why? Because people like you guys will keep buying them and telling anyone who'll listen that they are the best thing since sliced bread. In other words, they'll sell them regardless because of the name.
Is it the compromise for you? The fact that you chose one doesn't make it the best thing in the market place. It's the best thing in the market place for you.
It certainly isn't the compromise for me. I wouldn't waste the money. I can spend a third of it and have just as much fun. Or spend the same money and have a whole lot more fun.
So for someone looking at a new bike, upgrading from a smaller bike, or sizing down with the hope of doing more off road work than a 1200, take it all with a dose of salt. New owners who write in here will split into 2 categories, those that bought a piece of shit they can't stand, or those who bought the greatest bike ever built. Do the numbers. Be honest with yourself about your abilities and what you want out of the bike. Be prepared to either live with a compromise, or modify the bike.
another person who gets it ..... dropped it about 2 times today florida sand is tricky with no knobs but damn do those crash bars work and im getting some muscles picking it up
if i read correctly the thread is called New F800GS ADVENTURE!!!
not ...New F800GS ADVENTURE!!! and it alternative?!?!
Why would people be looking at a NEW F800GSA?
OK, I'll go back to working on my bike....I think the stupid is spreading.
but if she read this ........ ...........
cover your mouth your stupidity is contagious,joking ..... come on snowy cheer up we all like riding even if we all dont like the same bike
friend riding the GSA ....
Right before he dropped it in a gas station parking lot
he made it up and let me take them for a ride
good friend to have
Lol and theres the problem, I dont think BMW would appreciate me saying the 1190 adv r is the best thing since sliced bread
I just tried my first sand riding over the weekend.. Man what a rush, its more forgiving than I thought although I had new knobbies.. but got my dakar rally mindset going.. its great fun!!
Lol so the crash bars worked a treat? no scratches or anything? sweet!!! that's all you could ask for... My crash bars wern't so good... LOL
LMAO!!!! thats gold...
hahaha.. so back to the thread..
I had my heart set on the GSA, but took the S1000rr for a spin first, then the GSA second... I was sad, couldn't decide on if i wanted to do adventure riding anymore or track day riding..
No matter how much I insisted they simply wouldnt give me the factory fitted option of the s1000 engine with quick shift etc.. in the 800gsa hehehe
then (ahem, while I was drinking fanta), I started to get orange in my veins.. saw this new beast that had more balls then I do to push it to its limits but would still do my style of motoX adventure riding..
So a new horse was born in my shed I still love BMW's as well, I'm not prodigious to brands.. I'm easy
Austrian..German.... they both make a good product. . I just don't like the no front fender look.
Funny you should say fanta, twas in germany that fanta showed up.
ps. should look up the history of fanta....all i can say is coke is a dick company
I have an F800GSA, an R1200RT and a KTM 350 XCF-W. Each one has it's place.
I bought the F8GSA because I liked the look of it and thought because I have other bikes to ride, I'd save 8K over the R1200GSA. I also decided I'd rather carry 6 gallons down low, than 9 gallons up high. :) I did go up to Malcolm Smith's place and looked at the big KTMs....didn't really care for them, which is not to say they weren't nice bikes for somebody.
So far, the F800GSA is great for it's narrowly defined purpose (and I hope to do some Back Country Discovery Routes soon), as is the RT. But seriously...if I'm going down to Mexico or out to the desert and want to do some single track trail riding, I'm not bringing along a F800GSA, R1200GSA or a KTM1190AdvR...they are ALL pigs. I'm riding the KTM 350. LIghtweight, nimble and plenty of power.
I remember watching a program where a guy who had lived in Anchorage for 40 years and had ridden up the Dalton dozens of times running tours...was asked what would be the best bike to ride it with. He looked at the camera and said..."it doesn't matter...I've seen them all...from Harley's to scooters, bicycles to jeeps and everything in between". "The best bike"...he says..."is the one that you got."
So there you go. Sometimes I think that guys only feel good about themselves when they can tear down someone else's choice in motorcycles. I suspect these same guys talk a big game, but are the ones with the least experience. Very knowledgeable on paper...real skills lacking.
Ride what you have and quit your bitchin. :)
how you liking that ktm