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Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by tuffenuff, Jul 19, 2013.
Best advice yet!
A really, really good girlfriend would learn how to ride a bike and go along as a fellow rider instead of a passenger.
My wife has her own bike and rides it very well.
The problem is that sometimes I miss having my wife on the back of the bike.
And sometimes I don't.
I've never been a passenger, but I ride with one a lot. My advice would be:
- stop every 100-150 miles for water, whether you think you need it or not
- remember to lean against the turn in that gas station parking lot, which sounds obvious but 150 miles of pavement without stopping will make you forget
- don't lean too much of your weight against his back for too long a period of time, because he can't shift that weight to his butt, it has to get transferred to the bike through his arms.
Thanks all! While I would love to get my own bike, at 4'11" and 90 lbs, I'm somewhat limited (for now) as to the type of bike available for me. I know I can find some smaller dirt bikes out there, but not something suitable for a 2 week long adventure ride. This would require more research, trial runs and time which I don't have. So I'll save that discussion for another time. Stay tuned on that...
Noted. Thanks, ShaneBaby! We got the Sena SMH10 Intercom system and have it all paired up to our phones, set in our helmets and ready to go. The sound quality is amazing!
Got it. Thanks, ChildlikeWonder! And we'll definitely be hydrating well!
Got the SHOEI RF-1100 helmet (XXS) and will be wearing this a lot this month prior to the Sept ride. This was recommended to me for my size, type of riding, as a passenger, comfort and fit the shape of my head best. I thought the cost was fair. Bonus - it has recesses at the ears for speakers! This is coming in handy as I am not bothered at all by the intercom system my BF just bought and installed! Will provide a review after Sept ride.
Got the Fox Comp5 - had to get a Youth size 5 as I have small feet and no women's size 5 available when I purchased. These are comfortable as soon as I put them on and I feel protected. Will be wearing these around the house as well this month. Will provide an update review after the Sept ride.
You have a lot kf good recommendations. But in addition to being a good passenger he needs to be a good rider and partner.
Take a couple day trip or weekend trips off road so you can figure out what You need to be a good passenger. Being comfortable is key!
If he will spring for a top case strap a pillow to it for a back rest
. I ride my own and can go about 400 miles...rode once on the back and wanted off in 5 miles. The back seat is uncomfortable and not ergonomic. Don't worry about being "that girl" if you need a break ask for one. Half these people would be crying in 10 minutes riding pillion.
See "specific for women thread" for reco on packing gear etc
Lastly...talk about falling..
Friends did this UTBDR or CO . You can "go down" off road...especially if it is rainy and sloppy. Alway been a rider, I know when i am about to dump and know how to go with it...not sure how to react as a passenger.
But you should be prepared. Don't let this deter you...falling is no big deal! I promise!
You will have a great time.
SHOEI RF-1100 (XXS)
FOX COMP5 (Youth 5)
Thanks, SansSand! We're going on a day/weekend trip soon to iron out some kinks! Super excited and can't wait!
We appreciate all the great advice everyone. We're extremely pumped up for this trip - it's going to be EPIC! We're trailering the 990s out to Cortez and doing the COBDR, staying a weekend in Steamboat Springs for the 2013 KTM Rally, then north and across to Echo Park, join up with the UTBDR in reverse through Huntington, Moab, White Rim Trail, down to Mexican Hat with a visit to Monument Valley and back to Cortez. This will be a group of very experienced riders all on well-prepped 990 adventures, tuffenuff will be in good hands and it's going to be a very memorable trip for both of us. We need to get busy prepping the 990R, test packing our gear and doing some test rides together. The Sena SMH10 system is now installed in both helmets and we really like the intercom system and Bluetooth music. I think she'll be OK on the vinyl Renazco Racing seat, but we're looking for recommendations on some type of additional comfort pad for her if you pillion riders have any ideas? I'm also going to install some 6mm grub screws in the passenger pegs to give her additional grip off-road.
I wear the same helmet. Love it. If he got the Sena intercom, there's a trick to installing it on the RF1100: remove the pad (I'll provide details if you tell me that's the one he got).
As far as you being too small for a bike - nonsense. Ok, so too small for a BMW, but look at Ducati and Triumph.
Nice helmet. very comfy. Mine is getting old but is still very tight to my head and feels like an old hat should.
Wear your new helmet 4-6 hrs some day and check for hot spots. Wear your sunglasses if you do on the bike.
If you get hot spots around the ears you can squeeze the spot with your thunbs. Just a bit. It may take several tries.
Mine is snug enough that a silk scarf on my head makes it very tight.
Speaking of scarves. A silk scarf will stop windburn and chaffing on the neck .
Wet wipes (unscented) will clean bugs off your visor but leaves a film. I carry a very soft cloth for buffing after wiping.
I'm not much larger than yourself. I just started riding last year. There are lots of bikes out there to get you started on just to learn the basics. Then you figure out what you need to be safe and comfortable and go shopping! Tons of motogeeks out there get super stoked on customizing bikes to a girls personal specs. You just sound to me like a person who would really get a kick out of riding her own ride!
Either way your adventure is coming up soon and I hope you all have a fantastic trip!
I havent seen this bit of advice. But get a top box or some sort of backrest. It will make the passenger more comfortable, and let the driver hit the gas any time they want without worrying about flipping the passenger off the back. The missus will not ride without one and I dont blame her.
Seat wise. Go to Walmart and look for the 4wheeler seat pad. Cut it down as required and strap it the seat. Not perfect, but increases the comfort way beyond the $20 price tag.
One more thing. Both you and the BF should have a camel back. Drinking sips along the way, makes a big difference.
I just finished riding across Africa (cape town to cairo) two-up with my girlfriend on a F800GS. We did 10 countries, 20,000 kms in approx. 6 months.
We did not buy the intercom. We figured that we will be 24/7 together so the quite time on the bike was welcome and at the end of the ride we had things to talk about.
Definitely the off-road foot pegs for the passenger are a must if you plan to ride off road. We started without them and it was miserable for her because she kept sliding.
Be prepare to stop more often than if you are riding alone. Make sure you have a big blanket to wrap around yourself so you can pee on the side of the road if there is no bush or get one of those things to pee standing. Remember to carry toilet paper.
Learn the proper standing position while riding two-up. Both of you should be standing:
- the pillion as close as possible to the rider
- one hand under the arm holding to his chest so that when he gives gas you can hold onto him
- one hand on the back so when he breaks you can stop yourself
- make sure you understand weight distribution when turning (outside peg), going up-hill weight forward etc.
My gf used a road helmet because the off-road one got to much wind. If you are using off-road and are getting to much wind then make the windshield on the bike taller.
Make sure to take snacks and water as you will have different calorie intake needs.
We started riding 200 kms per day and that was enough for my girlfriend. It took almost a month before we could do 500 kms in a day. By the middle of the trip we did up to 800 kms in one day including off-road. Definitely start riding as much as possible prior to the trip.
Prior to the trip it will be good to discuss the rule of engagement. For example, we decided to postpone any discussion to the next day until we were both rested. We had agree on a "silent" day once very 10 days approx. Some time we made a "peace agreement" so we could move over the arguments... etc. etc.
Try to discuss roles and responsibilities. For example for packing, flat tire etc.
This is what come up to my mind right now.
Enjoy the ride!
I'm glad to see you are using real gear instead of cutesy stuff designed for looks (not that yours doesn't look good ). Good choice on the helmet, too. The peak on dual sport helmets is nice, but ends up bashing the driver every time he hits the brakes.
We have the Sena SMH5 intercoms, and it has made riding an experience we share, rather than feeling alone sitting next to each other. Ours cuts out occasionally, but always comes right back. Yours has more range (and features) so maybe it won't do that.
I also disagree with leaning. If you stay in line with the bike, the bike will be more predictable. You will lean a little just following the corners, but over-doing it doesn't help the rider.
The backrest: if you don't have one, another option is one of those belts with handles that goes around the driver's waist. Especially for someone your size, it is easier than trying to reach all the way around him, and provides a more comfortable riding position.
If you are the only woman in the group, the smaller size of women's bladders may become apparent. To avoid the sudden urge to stop at a restroom, you can either sip water a little at a time (the camel back was a good idea), or carry some tissue/wet wipes with you to make running behind a bush very quick.
It sounds like you are going to have an awesome trip!