New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. Jan from Finland

    Jan from Finland Been here awhile

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    In the portrait you will need spacers on top of rubber isolators and longer bolts for fixing the spacers.
    Otherwise you have no clearance for vibration and the set up doesn't work as designed.

    Especially, if you accidentally bent the back plate while fastening it. [​IMG]
  2. Pete O Static

    Pete O Static Adventure Seeker

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    Anyone having issues with false elevation information? Most GPS units by virtue of knowing their position on the surface of the earth, have the elevation of that position. Now I know that the Montana is supposed to have its own barometric altimeter which is basically useless unless you constantly re adjust for ambient atmospheric pressure but I like to have my current elevation ( which should be independent of any barometric device ) displayed on one of my data fields.

    The problem is, yesterday I rode into Montreal, which is on the St Lawrence seaway and the Montana was telling me that Montreal sits about 100 ft below sea level. Last time I checked, water doesn't flow uphill.

    Does anyone know if the elevation plot on the Montana sources its info only from the onboard barometric altimeter?
  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The Activity Mode you used in BaseCamp to create the route is noted in the GPX file data. When you change the Activity mode on the Montana it doesn't change that fact that the GPX data say's Direct Route - hence, the route is editable on the Montana because it is still a Direct Route. When you change it to Motorcycle on the Montana the thinking [by development] was probably that you would know you are going to get a recalculated route - therefore, editing remains.

    Cheers,
  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The Address geocoding in the Navteq map data that Garmin uses for City Navigator is the problem. You can report these conditions to Navteq directly and to Garmin.

    Cheers,
  5. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    My grammar was quite poor. Sorry for that. Along-road Routes can be edited on the Montana only if they were created on the Montana. Direct Routes can always be edited no matter where they were created.

    I too have had no problem with the Montana recalculating any of my transferred Along-road routes (maps being equal).

    I do still "test" my transferred routes by creating a Track of the Route before transfer and using both the Route and Track on the Montana when navigating if the routing is critical - to me.

    Cheers,
  6. Pete O Static

    Pete O Static Adventure Seeker

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    Thanks for the input. I do have " Elevation" selected in the data field. The term " elevation" usually refers to an elevation regardless of barometric pressure which is why I selected it. I did suspect that Garmin had somehow coupled this to the units barometer. I will try your suggestion and see if that works.

    Since the unit has the abilty to display barometric pressure and it has an " auto calibrate " function, then one variable it needs to know is actual elevation for it to calibrate. I will try your suggestion when I get home.

    Thanks again.
  7. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    Amigos por favor....while going through a bump in the road my GS developed a constant wobble for the remainder of the trip which had to be rectified at the BMW dealer..however the Montana 650 which is mounted onto the rugged mount developed a strange thing. I always had the bike symbol in the middle of the screen while the map moves underneath it; NOW the bike moves across the screen and I now have to constantly move the map ahead for the next session of bike travel..why is that?? Thank you...
  8. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Sounds to me like your antenna broke and it's no longer connecting to the satelites. Open up the Satelite app and see how many birds you're connecting to.
  9. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Yes, if you select [Setup | Altimeter | Calibrate Altimeter] you can manually calibrate altimeter by answering a series of questions.

    The Montana will ask:

    Do You Know The Correct Elevation?
    Do Yo Know The Correct Pressure?
    Do You Want To Use The Current GPS Altitude?
  10. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    And what has been the outcome of these "tests"?:rofl

    I'm still struggling with getting it to do what I want while autorouting. If I do a direct route in BC with lots of via points (<50), and don't change the activity (in either BC or Montana), it works just like every other Garmin I've had for the last 20 years. However, there are no directions or turn warnings, which is the coolest part of the new technology. And the magenta line may be hundreds of yards off the road!:huh
  11. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    If you have the same map versions for both BaseCamp and the Montana, you can create an Along-road route in BC and it will not be recalculated on the Montana. If your Montana is not operating in that manner and you are at v4.20 then I would consider calling Product Support.
  12. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    Got a punch of birds..think that the antenna is ok. Maybe my profile got "shocked". Amigo's what profile should I use where the the "motorcycle or car-arrow" should always be on the screen but the maps move forward once the vehicle comes close to the end of the map?

    Thank you, cheer....
  13. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    They are all supposed to work the way you want. I've never heard of scrolling the map manually unless I was doing so intentionally.
  14. moto-treks

    moto-treks Back Home

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    And if you switch it from along-road to direct just before sending it you the Montana you will be able to select the route on the Montana and change it back to a along-road routing and be able to edit the map on the Montana. I've had the Montana always recalculate the same original along-route routing.
  15. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    Thanks Embeedee and atlas cached....WOW..!! I guess something is awry. Should I do a "Master Reset"?
  16. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I would try the reset, if it was mine. Reset is nowhere near as destructive as it used to be.
  17. Miikka

    Miikka Sir Fallalot

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    Did my first proper test run with Montana; 15000km in 25 days!

    Happy to report that Montana worked great. Only hiccup during the trip was a frozen screen in town
    area when doing a POI search and started navigating towards that POI. Happened twice and both
    times the POI was really close (~200m). No need for reset, unit returned to normal operation after
    a while.

    Have to admit that I was quite nervous about leaving my 276c home and putting my money on
    Montana. Riding buddy had a Zumo, so I took the calculated "risk". Really happy I made the switch,
    it's a great (and somewhat complicated) tool!

    Zumo also was a great device, as a paper weigh, in Mongolia.. (no track support, other than record a track)

    -m
  18. Bill Murray

    Bill Murray Been here awhile

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    Miikka, your comment about a frozen screen is interesting. I did not experienced your specific problem (freezing during a POI search/navigation). However, I did experience several screen freezes during a recent trip while navigating using routes. I posted about it here. Unfortunately, no one here on this forum has commented yet about what they think may have been the cause for the freezes.

    When your Montana froze, did it do so while calculating the route to the POI or did it freeze after completing the calculation (that is, after having drawn the route on the Montana display)?
  19. Miikka

    Miikka Sir Fallalot

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    It froze while calculating route to POI. It happened twice and both times that particular POI was really close and I was moving as I initiated the calculation. (In smaller towns in Russia all the buildings / doors look alike, so knowing you're 200m away from your POI may not be enough to locate it. At least without asking someone)
    I did not turn off the unit nor do reset, just continued search old fashion way + with the help of Zumo on the other bike.
    My Montana came back alive (after exhausting itself with the calculation..) in a minute or two.

    Not a big deal. But not convincing either. Apples and oranges but 276c never froze on me.

    -m
  20. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    Interesting to hear other people's issues with freezing

    I have a replacement unit and I am still having issues with the graphic freezing. I can see the magneta line I am to travel, I can see the motorcycle icon and the blue line that shows where I have been. But, the blue line is ahead of me by a long way, the bike and road does not move but the distance to next turn, in Automotive mode, is still counting down .

    I have learnt to leave it and it will correct after a few minutes, BUT, when you are arriving at a major multi turn crossover it is scary and not very good.

    The other bad thing I have noticed is best explained by example. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1341667107.276057.jpg

    So, I am in southern Ireland and decide to head to Belfast, I type in Belfast for my CITY name and the first choice on the list is Belfast, in New Zealand, nearly 19,000km away, why would it not use the 2nd choice of Northern Ireland?

    I have noticed this many times, very annoying and it makes me think it is an unfinished product and not ready for the market




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    TravellingStrom