New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Correct.

    Currently, there is no setting to save them directly to the uSD card. Only Camera photos can be directed to be saved there.

    Simply recreate the \Garmin\GPX\ directory on the uSD card and store your tracks there.
  2. DrtSqtr

    DrtSqtr Been here awhile

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    whew...... glad to see im not alone :clap
  3. DrtSqtr

    DrtSqtr Been here awhile

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    only some names come up.


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    and sometimes not at all...... in this photo i zoomed in to see if it would make a difference

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    in the last 2 pics all i did was change the detail from more to most ....... as you can see it didnt change the street names it just added the poi's
  4. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    I have a Montana on the way, and this thread has been a great resource. After years with a Zumo and Etrex combo, I’m looking forward to a do-it-all unit. But I have a question.

    I have always created my road and dirt road routes in Mapsource using the routing tool. I place vias on lots of intersections, and set the unit to navigate by ‘shortest distance.’ This has worked everywhere I have been in the conti USA, including the CDR. Will this approach still work on the Montana, assuming I am using City Nav? I ask because there was a post suggesting that points on intersections cause trouble on the Montana. Is that correct?
  5. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    First, you will have to use BaseCamp for the Montana. If you haven't already, download it and start getting familiar.

    Reading this thread alone, you will see many issue related to via points and routes created with BaseCamp and sent to the Montana.

    Some have stated they have much better results changing the routing activity to "Direct" before sending the routes to the Montana. THEN, you can change the routing activity back on the Montana.
  6. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    I haven't had any routing issues at all in a few firmware iterations. I make my route in Basecamp and send it to the Montana. I use the same profile (based off automotive) and the routes are identical. One thing I do to make sure is to also convert the route to a track in Basecamp, send that to the unit as well. Then I just have the Route in magenta and the track overlaid in black. That way you can see they are both the same and you still get turn by turn directions.
  7. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    BaseCamp. Will download and get up to speed there. The wiki in your sig has a lot of great stuff, too. Thanks.

    Is there a step-by-step 'best practice' for creating a City Nav route in BC and then successfully navigating it on the Montana? If it's in here, I missed it!

    For the real funky stuff I just follow tracks, so my concern is routing the paved and dirt roads found in City Nav and having the unit follow the route I have chosen on the PC.
  8. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    Just do what I outlined above. I've had 100% success using that method.




    Of course I'm leaving tomorrow and the whole thing will probably go tits up. :rofl
  9. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    I though Starting a couple revs ago, the montana honered the type of routing you had setup in basecamp? I setup my own profile in base camp and told it to avoid any roads higher than state road. Then set the profiles in the montana to match. I never put waypoints on irsections because the montana anounces both waypoints amd corners. To much voice trafic if the 2 points are to close.
  10. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The Montana is "suppose" to take your Route from BaseCamp (map versions being equivalent) and run them unchanged. But, I have come across Routes that would lock up the navigation at certain places along the route. I believe that these lockups are caused by Via Points placed at Intersections. This does not happen all of the time - which makes it very hard to diagnose just what the heck is going on. I have never had a Route lockup if I placed my Via Points after Intersections when I needed them.

    As has been discussed, if you want to make sure your route will calculate properly create a Route in BaseCamp that follows the path you want and then create a Track of the Route. Just before sending your Routes/Tracks to the Montana, change your Routes to Direct Routes. Once on the Montana make sure your Routing Activity is set to Automotive or Motorcycle Driving. This will cause the Montana to calculate your Route into an along-road route. Now you can compare it to the Track as mentioned and verify that the Montana calculated the route as you intended. The side benefit of this process is that you can now EDIT this route on the Montana - including reversing the Route.

    Cheers,
  11. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    I've never changed anything to direct routes to get the result wanted. If I let the Montana calculate the route it is never the same as if I just transfer it and make it use what I sent.
  12. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Using the above technique requires you to use Via Points so that the Route in BaseCamp goes exactly where you want it to when converted to a Direct Route and back to an along-road route. To obtain the right number/placement of Via Points can require you to switch Routing Activities several times in BaseCamp while you are creating the route. I don't do this very often either but I always send a Track along with my Route to the Montana.

    Cheers,
  13. OceanMtnSea

    OceanMtnSea Pretty Dogged

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    I have to say I have had the same experiences when routing (short routes using the same map bases in BC and the Montana) in BC and on the Montana, but like I have said I am just more comfortable using tracks (as they will never change) in conjunction with important waypoints (so I can use the Montana routing if I go off track).

    If you are at all concerned about getting lost or loosing something or just not yet confident in the realtionships between BC and your Montana - tracks are by far a safer option than routing.
  14. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    OK. I'm getting what you guys are saying here. 2 clarifications please:

    1. "Create a Route in Basecamp" means using the routing tool and plotting vias along your intended route, and it's best to avoid intersections just in case. Correct?

    2. How many Vias does it usually take to make a route 'stick' where you want on a Montana? My Zumo needed a lot, as it would take a route with 100 vias in MS and discard 50 of them because it was a jerk and wanted me to ride boring roads.
  15. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    1. Correct.

    2. It depends. The test is to switch to Direct and back to along-road routing in BaseCamp. If it routes as you desire, most likely it will route properly on the Montana. But keep in mind that the Montana can only have 50 Via Points in a Route.

    Cheers,
  16. Timmer

    Timmer Curious Adventurer

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    We just returned from riding a month in Europe (that's a tale for another thread, but suffice it to say it was off the chart good) and used our Montana 600 for the very first time using CN Europe (latest verson). Here's some observations from an experienced GPS user.


    1. Loved the visibility of the screen in full daylight.
    2. Couldn't figure out how to remove via points in a route that was created on the fly on the unit. Usually I would just recreate the route using the same endpoint and revise my via points. Waypoints seem to be handled differently.
    3. The routing was terrific on all sorts of roads. With the Toll Roads turned off and Major Highways, the unit was very creative in finding some super tertiary roads. It was spot on with respect to the proper exit from a roundabout.
    4. Loved the battery backup to be able to take the unit into a restaurant or Pension to tweak routing.
    5. The security torx is an "interesting" feature and clumsy for me to use as I keep the torx on a lanyard in a pocket under my riding pants.
    6. The find lodging and fuel features worked quite well. Find addresses was spot on. I wish it would list cities in geographical proximity (I didn't care about cities in the US that had the same name as European cities). Could that be a feature request?
    7. It was my primary speedometer for KM and distance to next in KM, I kept altitude in Feet as I comprehend that faster.
    8. BC interfaced with it very well.
    9. One doesn't appear to be able to view the daily GPX file (I have it set to store the GPX file on a daily basis) until after midnight unless the current track is the same route that's been using all day.
    On balance, I really like the unit for the kinds of riding I do. .
  17. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    I got 3 days riding with my wife coming up in the near future. I want to create a couple back road routes and I will try this. In fact I will copy my Stone road routes to a new name, and try it on them as well. Sure will make the weekend go smother if I have more riding and less GPS fiddling.
  18. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    In BaseCamp, select the Route and open it's properties window (various ways depending upon your OS). There you should be able to select the ACTIVITY from a list that contains among others Direct and Automotive.

    Cheers,
  19. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    Ok, so I save the file in basecamp with Direct Routing (so it tags the file with direct routing), then once I push it to the montana, it will follow what ever routing profile (Auto or ADV) that I have active correct?

    I will have to try this.
  20. atlas cached

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    In theory, yes!