New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Yes! (basemap=BaseCamp)

    This would be the best practice.

    The older units keep all tracks and waypoints in one single GPX file, where the newer units keep everything separated in individual GPX files. This is not to say that you can not have several tracks and waypoints in a single file on a newer unit, but you can not (as I remember from my 60CSX days) have several tracks and waypoints in separate files on older devices.

    From memory (caution, here), the 60CSx etc kept all this information in the current.gpx, while the newer units use the current.gpx file strictly for the current recorded track log. More info here.
  2. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    For what it's worth all my tracks were made in Basecamp.
  3. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    I have run into problems getting a track out of the Montana while using Mapsource, but routes and waypoints seem to work with no problems...however, I will bite the bullet and try to re-train what few brain cells I have left for learning new software and move to Basecamp...:(:
  4. NCD

    NCD Dirty Hairy

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    Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

    I had a fancy schmancy TT anti-vibe mount for my Zumo 450. The version for the Montana is quite a contraption, and runs 180 bucks.

    Grab a hacksaw, mix in a little hardware, and viola... instant Montana mount.

    Figured I would post this up in case any one else is feeling crafty. Maybe keep an eye open in the FM for a used one. Maybe other ones work too.

    [​IMG]
  5. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Two days later the battery hasn't gone down any. The meter still reads full. I think this marks the end of my test phase; the Rugged Mount does not put a drain on the Montana's battery when the mount is disconnected/unpowered.

    So I think Levain's Rugged Mount must still be electrically active even though it's on a switched circuit, causing a drain on the gps battery.
  6. scotty69

    scotty69 Been here awhile

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    I use basecamp for both my 60csx and my montana. I only use tracks and it works fine on both. Except fo the fact I have to filter tracks fo the 60csx, but that takes about two minutes. Oh, I do all this on my Mac!
  7. Rick001

    Rick001 Never too old

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    Can anyone help me with a problem with my 650T
    Just recently hooked up the speaker cable from the mount for the first time and running it through a Senna SR10. I find that I have a constant background hiss in the audio.

    Is there any way of getting rid of this noise as it is annoying?
  8. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    when the montana stops talking, does the headset (assuming you have a SMH10) switch back to either intercom, phone or MP3?
  9. Rick001

    Rick001 Never too old

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    It only humms when the GPs talks, and keeps humming until it switches back. does not hum if ear buds are plugged directly into GPS, GPS is plugged directly into the Sena mounting bracket. It only humms when it goes through the SR10.
  10. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    I don't recall if mine makes any noise. Its not going to be the quality sound you hear when you plug in ear buds, because the SR10 to SMH10 bluetooth connection is low quality audio like used in a phone connection. I can't check mine now, but the GPS only talks while I am moving, then I have wind noise in the helmet and if the noise is there, I don't hear it. but I do hear that Garmin lady tell me when to turn :deal
  11. Rick001

    Rick001 Never too old

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    I now its only going to be mono coming out, but it has a very strong background noise that is audible at 100kmh when the GPS talks. Not too bad when there is instructions coming through, but is really annoying when the instructions stop, and you have that delay before the GPS audio disconnects. Will try moving the SR10 to a different location and see if that helps.

    Just figured out that the noise is caused by the power cable to it. Run it off the internal battery and it is fine. Plug the power cable in and it gets the humm. Looks like i need a 12v power filter of some kind.

    Think Ive fixed it.. Need a Ground Loop isolator...... get one in the morning and pray.............
  12. cablebandit

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    Snap a ferrite choke on the cable and see if that helps. Sounds like you have some RF interference.
  13. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    'Ferrite Choke' would be a great name for a band.

    Sorry, nothing to report in the gps world today. :lol3
  14. TowPro

    TowPro Lets ride

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    He actually needs a 1:1 transformer that stops a "ground loop" which can be caused when you have 2 devices, both running off the same power source that are talking to each other.
  15. Bill Murray

    Bill Murray Been here awhile

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    I just finished a three-day trip to ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway and my Montana 650 performed well. I cannot say enough about how much I like navigating using Tracks versus Routes.

    I saw an interesting behavior while using the Track Manager. (I was using the v4.60 firmware.)

    I had the Montana in its mount, and my bike was powered off (the CANBus power circuit to the mount was not powered at the time). I started the Montana manually, using its on/off button. I went to the Track Manager, selected an existing Track, and then pressed the Delete button to delete the Track. The unit immediately shot down. I restarted the Montana and returned to the Track Manager. Repeated the deletion sequence with another (different) Track and the Montana powered off once again. I repeated the sequence (powered up the Montana on its battery and entered Track Manager) again and selected a third Track for deletion. The third Track was deleted without the unit shutting down on its own. All three Tracks were created in BaseCamp (converted from Routes) and sent to the Montana's internal storage.

    Has anyone seen this Track Manager behavior before?

    Otherwise, my Montana performed flawlessly.
  16. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I have - I've reported recently how my Montana shut down repeatedly as I tried to delete tracks. Otherwise, mine works perfectly the rest of the time. I never have lockups/white screens etc at any time while using it. In fact it's been many months since I've had a lockup.
  17. Timmer

    Timmer Curious Adventurer

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    On my just completed month long ride in Europe, I had the unit lock up on me 3 times. It took a battery removal to in-freeze it. I'm only on software version 4.4 so an update is probably necessary.


    Tim in Burien, WA
  18. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Removing the battery to unfreeze it is likely to allow it to lock the same way again. The best way to unfreeze it is to hold the power button in for 20 seconds when you have the gps off a powered mount. This seems to clear out caches or something, and is much more reliable.
  19. Timmer

    Timmer Curious Adventurer

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    Thanks for the tip. I think I tried that with no success, but I'll be more conscious about it going forward. I do really like the unit especially after fighting with my 2720 which has a failing touch screen today on a 250 mile rain ride in Western WA.

  20. hanksmybuddy

    hanksmybuddy Been here awhile

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    Help before I throw this thing. Here's my problem. I have the Montana 600 and am using BaseCamp. I purchased the Topo US 24K yesterday. Loaded it on my computer but can't seem to get the maps to load up to the Montana. I've disabled everything on the Montana Map wise and tried again but still no new maps. WTF? Just noticed on the back of the packaging where it list compatible Garmin units. The Montana is not listed but I can't imagine they are selling software that won't work on their new units. Thanks in advance for any help.