New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. atlas cached

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    1. Many of us prefer using the uSD card for our maps and other data because, if you have any issue with data becoming corrupted or not otherwise properly read in the field, you can simply remove the uSD card, reboot the Montana, then insert the uSD card and reboot again to re-index all of your data. This does not happen often, but it does happen.

    2. I have used many brands, and have had the best reliability with SanDisk cards. Officially, the Montana accepts up to 32GB, while some users have been able to make 64GB uSD cards work. Due to map tile and total GPX limitations of the Montana, 16GB will likely be plenty for most users. Map information here.

    3. The most current version of Garmin MapInstall will load all map data to your uSD card before sending to your GPSr, but data transfer through the GPSr can be very slow. If you create a \Garmin\ directory on your uSD card and insert it in a card reader, MapInstall and BaseCamp will interface with it and data transfer speeds will be better. More useful software information here.

    Make sure you back up your Montana before getting carried away, just in case you need some of the original files date!
  2. atlas cached

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    Experiment with adjusting [Setup | Maps | Advanced | Zoom Levels | Street Labels] and [Setup | Maps | Advanced | Zoom Levels | Land Cover] out to higher zoom levels.
  3. johnpitts01

    johnpitts01 Long timer

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    Just to be clear......
    Should the uSD card be in the Montana when downloading the maps or should the card be in a slot on the computer?




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  4. moto-treks

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    I put the micro-SD card in the computer and download directly to the card as it's much faster than using the USB cable.
  5. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    I install to the HD then copy to my SD card using an internal card reader in my laptop. Seems to be the quickest way for me.
  6. johnpitts01

    johnpitts01 Long timer

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    Forgive my ignorance...

    I am coming from the 276-478 world where the CN maps were linked to a specific unit. It was necessary to buy a seperate copy of CN for each GPOS unit.

    You are telling me I can download the CN maps to multiple uSD Cards?????

    John
  7. atlas cached

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    No. CN will be locked to ONE device.

    You will have to have that device plugged in when you send the maps.
  8. Emmbeedee

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    But he can copy what he ends up with on his uSD card to a second (or multiple cards), and keep that to work in the same device the map is locked to...
  9. johnpitts01

    johnpitts01 Long timer

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    Maybe I'm being a bit dense.... but I am confused.

    If I understand correctly I must have the Montana connected to my computer.
    I an insert a uSD card in the slot on my computer (not the Montana).
    I can then download the maps to the uSD card.

    Really?????

    If the maps are locked to one unit it seems to me it would be necessary for the card to be in the unit to work.


    Just sayin....



  10. Emmbeedee

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    If you have the gps connected to the computer when you activate the map it will bind itself to the Montana. But if you have a uSD card in the gps, you can choose to send the maps to that with MapInstall, though it might take 1/2 an hour for MapInstall to build the mapset, and send it to the usb connected gps.

    It used to take a very long time for map transfers to happen back when we used the 60/76CSx models because they were on USB1, a very slow version, but the faster usb port on the Montana cuts the time down a lot.

    You can also speed this up a bit more by putting the uSD card into the computer but I don't think it's worth worrying about. Just start the transfer, then go for a walk or coffee...
  11. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    Well I am back on track :)

    After 14 days the faulty unit was replaced and although I had to cross a border and a river and use a cranky slow bus that broke down, I now have my THIRD 650t.

    Hopefully this one will last longer than the other 2 and not get confused either :)

    Cheers from Chiang Rai Thailand on my way back to my broken down bike in Laos

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  12. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    When MapInstall compiles your maps it also creates the unlock "key" for that map (a GMA file) from the unlock code that is stored on your computer for a specific GPS unit. That key is linked to two things; 1) your Montana's unique ID (not the S/N) and 2) the Map Version (CNNA 2013.30). When MapInstall transfers the Map it also transfers the GMA file. So, now on your µSD Card you have those two files: IMG (map) and GMA (unlock key). Only YOUR Montana can open the Map using the GMA file data. If you put that Card into another GPS the maps would not unlock.

    Now, you didn't really want to know all of that did you. :norton

    Cheers,
  13. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    :huh This??? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download

    Pardon the semi-off-topic question but how well do these work compared to maps from Garmin?
  14. johnpitts01

    johnpitts01 Long timer

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    Yes, I did need that information. It all makes sense to me now.
    Without that explanation I was quite confused.

    Again, just to be sure I have it correct, please confirm that I have (2) choices, A and B

    A
    Install the uSD card in the Montana
    Connect the Montana to the laptop
    Create a directory on the uSD card named /Garmin
    Insert the CN CD in the laptop
    Download the CN maps to the uSD card in the Montana to the /Garmin directory.
    To load the maps to a second uSD card, disconnect the Montana, swap uSD card 1 with uSD card 2, connect the Montana to the laptop again and download the maps to uSD card 2.



    B
    Insert the uSD card in the slot on the laptop
    Connect the Montana
    Create a directory on the uSD card named /Garmin
    Insert the CN CD in the laptop
    Download the CN maps to the uSD card to the /Garmin directory.
    To load the maps to a second uSD card, swap uSD card 1 with uSD card 2 on the laptop and repeat.


    Sorry to be such a PITA with the questions, but I want to be sure to get this right from the get-go.

    If detailed instructions are available anywhere just give me a link or point me to w website / thread.


    Thanks for all your help.


    John



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    Trying to get the OSM maps into Basecamp and 650.
    On http://www.openstreetmap.org/ I see a Mapquest Open terrain style map.
    This is what I really would like to have on the Montana since the terrain maps are what I use in Google to find the hilly roads.
    So is there a download for this Mapquest OSM? I can't seem to find it.
    I've made a little progress with the generic routable OSMs but I'm sure I'll have to ask a few questions about that as well soon enough.
    thanks
  17. mass-klr

    mass-klr Been here awhile

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    Just to make sure. If my SAE cable going to my battery has a fuse in line do I still need to leave the amps mount fuse on the part going from the mount to the SAE connector?
  18. atlas cached

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    You do not need to insert the CN DVD each time.

    First time, you will install CN to your hard drive. Then you will be able to use it in BaseCamp. Launching MapInstall will allow you to send all or part of the CN map to your Montana or uSD card.

    Please read the Montana Map Installation info here.
  19. Emmbeedee

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    If your connection is fused then sure, snip the one off the Garmin cable but I left mine on since it makes it safer, in case I plug into someone else's bike sometime if I borrow a bike but don't know if their wiring is fused.

    Better safe than sorry.

    Besides, if I do blow the fuse, it's much more accessible this way.

    I just remembered the other reason I left the fuse on the Garmin cable. The SAE cable has a larger fuse than is best to protect electronics with since that SAE connector normally is used for battery charging, and powering the electric air pump when I need it. So it just makes sense to have a lighter amperage fuse in the Garmin cable.
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    Hmmmm, I just checked the units software and it was shipped with version 3.82, why would they do that, you would think it would come out with at least the latest stable version :(


    Oh well, in for a penny, I am installing 4.60 now and will see what happens when I go for a ride for the first time in about an hour or so :)

    Cheers
    TS