New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    Blooming heck. What is it about me and Montana's?

    I just arrived in Vang Vieng by bus from Vientiane for some R&R while waiting for bike parts to repair a busted Vstrom

    I figured I would attempt the only Geocache in this area, which is a T5 and D5. I turn on my GPS and I don't have any Geocaches on there? WTF

    I just found some two days ago up north and nothing has changed?

    I changed profiles to Geocache, please visit Garmin to download some caches, if I select Where To, there is no Geocache option in the sub menus?

    This gadget is seriously flawed

    BUT, I am prepared to take the blame IF I can sort things out. If I turn it off one day and turn it on two days later I seriously expect no frigging change!!!

    So, what should I do gurus?

    I feel that what I need is an absolute clean GPS with nothing on it but the basemap. Then I probably should totally nuke the whole Basecamp, all my My Collection data and start from absolute scratch and then install the map I need(Laos for the moment) then start adding things like caches and waypoints etc as I go.

    Please help

    What steps do I need to take to get back to virgin Montana, straight out if the box without actually losing all of my last 7 months tracks pois and any other data I have collected

    Both times my Montana has been returned to England I have got it back with the info it went away with. IF there is some corrupted data anywhere in the system, it has been copied across to the new unit.

    I am prepared to do another master reset, the 5th one in the past three weeks and I have only had this thing back a month, but there is seriously something screwy with either my data or my unit and surely I cannot be so unlucky to get three useless units in a row?

    I don't want to brick the unit so please be gentle ;)

    I will have some time over the next week, I think, so if somebody could give me detailed instructions I would appreciate it, and if it worked then i might ride past and buy you a beer or two if I am in the neighborhood :)
  2. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    TS, I assume your caches were loaded via PQ's?

    It is still quite common for the Montana to have trouble indexing random geocaches, and when the issue occurs, the Montana simply ignores the entire GPX file. This bug is as old as the Montana itself, and Garmin has yet to cure it.

    This is why I keep all my GPX and other data on the uSD card. When this occurs,, I only need to remove the uSD card, reboot the Montana to refresh/clear the memory, reinsert he uSD card and reboot again. This procedure is almost always successful.

    Restoring Montana:

    If you do not have a back up copy of the Montana as you received it, you can enter recreational profile, connect to computer, back up your GPX and POI (etc) directories as well as your maps, delete all files/folders from the unit, remove uSD card, reboot, copy saved data back to Montana and uSD card. Original profiles with original wallpaper are available from the Montana wiki, which need to be copied back to the Garmin\Profiles directory, and rebooted again.

    Your maps and personal data will be present, but all else will be as new. I am unsure you need to do all this. Probably just keeping your data on the uSD card and knowing you will, from time to time, have to remove the uSD card and reboot the Montana empty to clear it out, then again with the uSD card installed, as outlined above.

    Hopefully Garmin will address some of the Montana shortcomings in a future firmware release.
  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    TS, How many new/different Serial Numbered Montana's have you received? Or, did you get back the same unit (S/N) that you sent in for repair?

    Cheers,
  4. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Traveling Strom, before doing anything drastic, have you run the file checker found under Extras in JaVaWa to see if it finds any corrupted or otherwise flawed gpx files?


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  5. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    Hi

    @Emmbeedee Yes, I checked and there is nothing wrong.

    @DRTBYK I have had 3 different serial numbers, but mqaybe I am just assuming all the data was the same the 3rd time, I know the 2nd unit had it because he told me he saved my data, and it seemed to me the data was there when I plugged it into BC, but that may have been the cause

    @atlas cached I don't have an SD card in at this time, all caches wee installed using PQ's, except for the ones I actually seeded, they are just waypoints. I will think about doing the other stuff you mentioned.

    One other thing, last time I asked for help in creating shortcuts, to Automotive Mode and Track Up. I then had issues with this not working, then working, well this issue is still there. One time I turn it on and this feature works, the next time it doesn't, it is really pissing me off.

    Lucky my bike is broke so I can't get too frustrated eh!!!

    Cheers
    TS
  6. _cy_

    _cy_ Long timer

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    wonder if Basecamp will ever be offered for ipad or android tablets?

    sure would be handy to support Montana from a tiny tablet during a trip.
  7. ramz

    ramz Professional Trail Rider

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    I have a Nexus 10 tablet and I'm getting the items together that will allow me to move files around. I have an OTG cable plus SDHC chip in a mini reader and will soon select one of several apps that allow me to move data between the GPSr and external storage. I'm not quite there; have to learn about Rooting first and then expect everything to drop into place.

    I will only be able to move files around with the above items, not create routes etc. Later I hope to use the Dual Sport Maps app to create and manage routes that I can transfer to the GPSr. Others have already used DSM to navigate using an android device, so that will be in my future, as well.

    Just gotta find the time to learn all this...
  8. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Will eagerly await your updates!
  9. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    My 600 did something really strange a few days ago in the car on the way back from Boise, following a route on CNNA.

    I happened to look down at it after it had been performing normally for several hours, and it had gone dark with only the Garmin logo showing. I removed it from the cradle and held the on/off button down for at least 2 minutes.....nothing. Poked the screen a few times.....nothing.

    I put it back in the cradle and ignored it for another 15 minutes or so, when it suddenly came back on, not a reboot, but following the road in my actual postion on the map as if nothing had happened at all!:huh

    WTF?

    I've had it shut off completely several times, always remedied by a remount in the cradle, which I assume is a battery contact interruption (it could use fresh ear plugs), but this is something totally different. Any ideas?
  10. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    You are running v4.60, correct?
  11. Rocky TFS

    Rocky TFS Been here awhile

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    Oh yeah, sorry, V4.60 it is. I never had any of the other nasty issues posted here over the last year. It's been very reliable....until now.:huh

    Maybe I just went through a wormhole without noticing.:rofl
  12. snooker

    snooker AttitudeIsEverything

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    I went to install City Navigator CNNANT 2013 onto my PC last night and it said I needed something like 30GB or so of room. Well this PC is old and doesn't have near that much. I could probably scrape up 10GB. Any other options?
  13. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    You could add an external hard drive, maybe? I say maybe because I have not tried installing maps to an external drive so am not 100% sure that it can be done. I see 1TB units in the hundred dollar range. Example: http://www.staples.com/Western-Digi...1TB-External-Hard-Drive-USB-30/product_901973
  14. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Are you sure it said you needed 30GB? The install file and the installed map combined are less than 6GB.

    Cheers,
  15. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    That's odd - I just checked on my installation (a Mac, but sizes should be similar) and City Navigator 2013.30 takes up less than 3 gigabytes. Likely you'd need double that initially for installation, but 30 gig is a bit more than necessary. But you may want to offload some of your drive's contents anyway to backup devices. A full hard drive never works well.
  16. Gerg

    Gerg Cupcake

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    After reading MANY pages I'm wondering...

    If you had it to do over again, would you buy the Montana?

    I have several (7 or 8) Garmins From the GPS III to the ZUMO 665 and all have been good tools. I just went to the ATV dark side and really don't need all the features of the ZUMO 665 on a Quad. I tried using my 276C but that's way to big to keep in one place, I can't keep in from turning and twisting on the Ram/Touratech mount.

    Would a Montana be the answer I'm looking for?

    Gerg
  17. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    Yes.

    I want/need a GPS that will do good road navigation, but that also has excellent support for off-road tracks.

    My prior unit was a 60cx. The two issues I have with it are speed (it's slow) and readability of the small screen, especially in sunlight.

    The Montana has everything I need, and I have not found any Achilles' heel yet.
  18. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Yes, certainly. It's an awesome device - the best there is right now and probably for some time, IMHO.
  19. Dolly Sod

    Dolly Sod Red Clay Halo

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    Aren't the Montana and the 276C about the same size?
  20. guavadude

    guavadude de-composer

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    Yes I'd buy it again. This is my first gps and I held off for over a year after it was released, partially to let the bugs get sorted out but also because I felt my iphone worked fine for mapping. I've really enjoyed the Montana and having a map in front of me is much better than digging the iphone out of my pocket all the time. It's really changed the way I ride.

    On gpscity.com there are pics of a user with the larger RAM ball mounts, the 1.5". I went with this and it's rock solid. No movement and it doesn't take a lot of pressure to lock it down. I'd suggest you try this RAM mount first since it may be all you need. If you decide to grab a Montana you'll already have everything but the amps mount.