New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    The Javawa message is fairly clear - you have duplicate tiles in multiple img files and that will cause problems.
  2. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    So no maps can contain overlapping map data. That's just silly.
  3. AugustFalcon

    AugustFalcon Long timer

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    Wow: From -30C to +32C in 24 hours??? :huh

    That would be -22 F to 89.6 F :deal
  4. bighopper

    bighopper Been here awhile

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    He went indoors, to the sauna :jkam ...contribution to the Globe Warming
  5. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    No, no sauna, but I guess the wood stove got fairly hot last night. The Tempe's attached to a knapsack in that room when it's not outside in the cold.
  6. Patch

    Patch Been here awhile

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    ... found my answer. the video from gpscity shows it. Just thought it was odd that the contacts aren't the same between the auto and the rugged mount. No worries!
  7. Attico

    Attico Wrong way 'round

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    How good is the tempe? Reliable?

  8. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I haven't compared its reading to other thermometers but it seems about right. And it stays connected to the gps as it should. I find it interesting that it stores the high and low values then resets them daily, I assume at the time I first activated it by putting the battery in.

    I've been trying to think if it would be best to have the reset happen during the night, or if it even matters what time it resets.

    It's spending the night outside. Will be interesting to see what the temps get down to. Was at -28 C when I last looked.
  9. Bonerov

    Bonerov Damned dirty ape

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    This could be so that the unit knows which mount it is in. When I plug it into my rugged mount it beeps for events (unless I've got my headphones plugged into the external audio port). When I plug it into the auto mount it gives voice directions. Kind of handy, actually.
  10. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    I kinda think it's not that accurate. It seems to always read warmer then it really is. Yesterday I saw it hit 66 and I was still running my electric vest so I kinda doubt it got that warm. I keep it in my tank bag and maybe it does stay warmer in there then the ambient temp but even now it's out in my garage and it says the temp is 50 but according to the thermometer I've got in there it's only 41.
  11. Countdown

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    Yea, I was going riding today but it is raining, what a bummer. Rain should quit tonight leaving nice dmp sand for my 3-day Hi Desert 250 ride this weekend.

    http://www.dualsportwest.com/public/eventFlyers/13 hd.pdf

    Or you could just throw another log n the fire and dream about riding.
  12. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    I put mine in the freezer and within minutes it was reporting the exact same temperature as the thermometer inside the freezer....

    I have no issues with the reported temperature from my Tempe.
  13. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    This is my 2nd one. The first one seemed just as inaccurate.:dunno
  14. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Which versions do you have?

    With or Without the white triangle above DynaStream?

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  15. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    The one with the triangle.
  16. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Both of them?
  17. atlas cached

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    I now have experience similar to, and can sympathize with TravellingStrom:

    I recently embarked on a 1600 mile trip.

    Before the trip, I planned several potential routes in BaseCamp from Start to Finish, each taking slightly different paths. I saved each route in BaseCamp, appending the route name with "v1", "v2", "v3", etc...

    To create the routes, I used a Start waypoint, Finish waypoint, and multiple waypoints between to direct each version of the route as desired.

    Once complete, I sent these routes from BaseCamp to my Montana 650 and nuvi 3790. I rebooted each device and checked them to make sure the routes were available.

    I used CityNav 2013.3 in BaseCamp to create each route, and have CityNav 2013.3 loaded on each GPSr.

    We were traveling in two vehicles, the Montana in one and the 3790 in the other. On each device, 'Where To?' > 'Route' > 'Route XXX' was selected.

    On multiple occasions, the Montana and nuvi would NOT agree on which exits or roads to take, creating confusion for both drivers. When we stopped for fuel or breaks, I would compare the units to ensure identical settings were enabled (they were), and yet the two Garmin GPSr units with identical settings, identical routes, and identical maps could NOT AGREE on where to direct the user.

    There is nothing more I could have done on my end to give two users identical instructions for the trip, and yet the Garmin GPSr devices refused to comply.

    Also, I was certain a recent BaseCamp update addressed user complaints that after sending multiple routes to their GPSr, they would have duplicate waypoints on the device for each route. And yet, I found my Start and Finish waypoints listed in Waypoint Manager nearly a dozen times. After deleting all loaded routes, the duplicate waypoints were still all present on the device. They were sent from BaseCamp as part of the route, why are they not removed when the routes are removed?

    Also, while likely not a BaseCamp issue (but who can be sure?), after stopping mid way through the trip to sleep, and restarting my Montana 650, and selecting the same route to continue navigation, the Montana 650 refused to route me from my current location in the route to the destination, but rather demanded I return to the Start waypoint, nearly 800 miles behind me, making the routes created in sent from BaseCamp again useless.

    I had to recreate new routes on each device (Montana 650, nuvi 3790) while eating breakfast. Interestingly, each device functioned flawlessly from that point forward.

    The only common link between the horribly malfunctioning routes is BaseCamp.

    I have to tell you, I was, at one point, fantasizing about throwing both GPSr units out the window at 70mph, and never looking back.

    I expect MUCH MORE from a company like Garmin. Thier hardware is world class, but their software continues to be sub-par, at best. I know they have the talent, why are they not applying it?

    /rant
  18. cablebandit

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    Without using two Montana's I don't think you can assume the routing should be the same.

    Also when I've had the issue of the unit sending me back to the start it quickly realizes once you start down the road where you are on the route and continues from there.



    This is why I always convert tracks to overlay over the route.
  19. atlas cached

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    The route was created in BaseCamp, with very specific path. Why would it change on the GPSr? I sent the specific route I created to my GPSr, should not the GPSr follow the route exactly as created, so long as the maps are identical in BaseCamp and the GPSr (they were)?

    Maybe next time I'll try that. Only the Montana 650 exhibited this behavior. The nuvi asked which waypoint in the route I wanted to navigate to next. Of course, the ETA afterwards was displayed for the next waypoint instead of the final destination.


    I also had these, but they do not give turn by turn information, which I wanted the other drivers to have.
  20. cablebandit

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    I've never been confident that the route created in Basecamp is going to be 100% in the GPS regardless of how many waypoints are in there.



    True the track doesn't give turn by turn, BUT you can see if you deviate from your proposed route. I used a thick magenta line for the route with a thin black line for the track. It's VERY obvious when the two part ways. At that point just follow the track and the route recalculates and is back on top the track in no time. Using this method you still get turn by turn but you can also navigate your intended route.