New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    Below is an example of what I'm talking about regarding tracks overlayed on routes.

    On the left you can see the route (magenta) follows the track as I planned.

    On the right you can see that the route deviates from the track but because I have one laid over the other I can continue on my way and wait for the route to rejigger itself back to the track.

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  2. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Excellent illustration! Thank you for taking the time to share your solution.

    I do still wish Garmin could be more consistent with their software. Not much point in making a route on my PC to send to my GPSr if I can not trust the GPSr will follow the route, which is exactly what a route is supposed to do.
  3. mass-klr

    mass-klr Been here awhile

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    I am a little confuse why we have to hack hardware to have it work correctly if we pay all that big $$$ for the Montana. I know the Montana can do a lot and I really like mine but come on, really? What's up with the hardware. GPS switching off, Rugged mount security screw screwed, etc...

    Don't mind me. I am just having a bad day and want to bitch a little...
  4. Jon_PDX

    Jon_PDX Long timer

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    I agree.......it should just work.

    I understand sharing routes between different gps devices in the past has been questionable but it should not be that way anymore.....within reason......especially from the same manufacture. Having to make tracks of routes to make sure you stay on the route you wanted seems like a step back in time.

    Jon...
  5. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Just the 2nd one as far as I know, don't have the first one anymore.
  6. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Well, very few Garmin units will follow a route created in BS/MS that the unit does not go ahead and automatically recalculate on it's own. The Montana is one of those few units. I'm betting the Nuvi on the other hand isn't. Your Montana was probably following the route you created correctly. The Nuvi, probably recalculated the route and changed it.
  7. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    Well, both Garmins hardware and software are mediocre at best, but unfortunately for us, it's the best thing out there.
  8. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    Absolutely correct! The nuvi did not follow the route as originally created.
  9. atlas cached

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    Unfortunately, you are (again) absolutely correct.
  10. Jon_PDX

    Jon_PDX Long timer

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    This is good info to know and is encouraging.

    Jon...
  11. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    @Atlascached. Sorry to hear your dramas but I am glad it is not just me having issues

    One of the complaints that have not been addressed by Garmin is the "truncated route". Why it cannot install a complete route over 650km is beyond me :(

    It is not as if the amount of roads here in SEA are over the top either

    And, this particular unit, my third, very nearly crashed the other day. By that I mean it froze a few times while navigating Bangkok, the largest city it has been in since I got this replacement. I very nearly had to do a master reset but I got away with it. I was on major roads with only a few tall buildings so there should have been no reason to lock up

    But, at least I have a GPS, it was a pain without it

    Cheers from Siem Reap
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  12. Albie

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    Wow, haven't done any long route planning on the 650 yet, still using my Zumo for that. Didn't realize there was a length limit. It's bad enough dealing with the shitty 50 via point limit on the damn thing that I can easily hit on a short 150 mile route. :mad? A buddy sent me a route for todays ride that has 55 via points so I either have to redo the route and trim it down to 50 or just convert it to track. Since I'm not leading I'll just covert it to a track.
  13. mass-klr

    mass-klr Been here awhile

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    One of my friends with a new Zumo 660 has the same issue where it will only route a certain distance and when you get there it will route the rest. Must be the new CN maps?
  14. cropear

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  15. Jon_PDX

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    I'm confuse as to why that would happen. I just created a route that was just under 2,800 miles (4506.16 km), loaded it on my Montana 650 from BaseCamp, and it shows the full route on the Montana when I bring it up on the map screen.

    Montana 650 (Firmware: 4.60)
    CNNA 2012.40
    BaseCamp: 4.1.0 (Mac version)
    Default automotive mode

    I did notice that the Montana was slow drawing the route on the map but it did complete after about 15 +/- seconds. I did not hit the "GO" button to start the route but I don't see why it would not have worked.

    What am I missing that is causing you, or anyone else, to be limited to 650 km?

    Jon...
  16. TravellingStrom

    TravellingStrom Been here awhile

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    Ahhhhh, yes it looks good when you start and there is NOTHING to show that it won't work until you start riding. The routing all works until a certain but unknown point then suddenly at the top of the screen it shows truncated route

    I am mostly doing short legs over here so did not notice this issue. But, once I land back in Oz I will have to do a long, maybe 4,000km route back home so I may be able to narrow it down then
  17. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Has anyone raised this truncation issue to Garmin customer support? Does this happen on other units?
  18. Jon_PDX

    Jon_PDX Long timer

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    Very interesting.......thanks for the clarification.

    Jon...
  19. Drif10

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    Found a weird glitch, maybe emmbeedee can duplicate it.

    Was east bound on the 417 out of Renfrew heading to Alexandria. So, 417E through Ottawa. Used to a Garmin giving directions to stay on 417 @ 416, and on 417 at the split.

    It did that. But it also had me jumping off at Metcalfe, then back on. :scratch

    Next time you're through there Mike, see what yours does. :D
  20. Emmbeedee

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    Which map? Likely City Nav? Were you using Shorter Distance or Faster Time in your routing option?

    I have to go through there on Tuesday so I'll give it a try.