New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    I am missing the same data fields as you in v 5.10! I have sent my report to Garmin, but I fear the Montana is quickly falling to Oregon x00 status with the Monterra release fast approaching...
  2. Timmer

    Timmer Curious Adventurer

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    Today I went out to do a 600 plus mile loop around the Olympic Peninsula and experienced some very frustrating Montana behaviour. First the background:

    5.20 firmware
    CN NT 2014.1 Maps
    Route with 8 waypoints created in BC and sent to the Montana in Direct Routing mode.

    The route loaded up correctly in the Montana in my normal automotive profile and I started navigating it. About 1/2 hour into the ride I decided to take a much more scenic route than the one computed by the unit, so I headed on off on it. Suddenly the unit turned itself off. I repeatedly restarted it but could only get to the main dashboard screen before it turned itself off. I thought maybe I have a loose battery (I have the battery padded with foam ear plugs) so I removed the battery and just ran it off of bike power. It exhibited the same behaviour.

    So I finally decided to do a reset (power on and one finger in the upper left part of the screen). I received the warning message about losing my personal data, but I didn't have anything to lose. With that reset I regained control of the unit. I switched to my motorcycle profile and reloaded the route (I was now close to the original routing) and it held for the next 4 hours.

    Later in the day while in my motorcycle profile, I tried to do a recalculation and the unit started turning itself off just like earlier in the day when I was in my automotive profile. So I did another reset, switched back to my automotive profile and created a route on the fly and the unit worked perfectly.

    My conclusion is that there is something going wrong with a complex recalculation. My recalcs today reached 80% before the unit would shut down and the only recovery was to do a reset. I never have had this issue before on any of my Garmin units.

    Does anyone else have any wisdom about this issue?

    On the topic of additional errant waypoints that I noted a month or so ago, there were none of those today!
  3. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    You are not alone, I have been experiencing similar (if not identical) issues recently, and have reported them to Garmin. My Montana is currently almost useless.

    I may revert to a firmware before they added all the new active routing features, which are of no use in the USA right now, as we have no active routing maps available.
  4. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    Eh? What does this mean?
  5. Emoto

    Emoto Sure, why not?

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    So, maybe the shutdowns that I experienced when trying to get my Montana to navigate a route that a friend had made were not related to a problem within the route. Interesting.
  6. Cataract2

    Cataract2 Where to?

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    Same here. I'm downgrading back to 5.00.
  7. Albie

    Albie Kool Aid poisoner

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    More like 4.9, I think 5.0 was where we saw the map speed problems.
  8. cablebandit

    cablebandit Web Adventurer

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    More like 4.7. The last stable release that was glove friendly. :deal
  9. Boatman

    Boatman Upward and onward!!

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    I don't/never have archived tracks. Was under the assumption that the unit just wrapped the tracks like my 60 does, deletes the oldest tracks continuously. Turning the unit off and rebooting didn't help.
  10. Adventure Addict

    Adventure Addict Doin it in the dirt

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    Here is how my Montana is mounted. We ride severe terrain all over the world and the interior of the unit and the battery are still 100% pristine... not even a single scuff mark like in the photos with the broken pin. No earplugs in this unit either and have not had any problems with it.

    What seems to cause the issues with Montanas is being rigidly mounted to
    the bike. They really need some form of effective vibration isolation.

    [​IMG]


    This is a modified Touratech Garmin GPS V mount. There was another GPS mount thread where it was detailed--

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=837606
  11. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Well I must be living right, because on version 5.10, I still have the Speed Limit indicator and the Lane Guidance info. I went on a 4 lane highway today, just to see if it was there. (The things I do for the sake of knowledge!) :lol3

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  12. atlas cached

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  13. atlas cached

    atlas cached OX Ambassador

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    The Montana is NOT like your old 60 series... Tracks are handled much differently!
  14. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Seems as though the "Montana" team is getting a bit sloppy with their updates. :hmmmmm

    Oh well, back to v5.10 which was working just fine for me.
  15. atlas cached

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    You are! I used to get those, but no longer do :(

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  16. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    Why would you not want an automatic daily archive of your rides?
  17. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Well, I appreciate that translation of the German webpage but "active routing" and Activity (profile) based Routing are the same thing and we've been doing that since the Montana was released - not to mention v4.1.2 of BaseCamp (v4.2.1 of BaseCamp is now using the same Routing Algorithm as the GPS units).

    Personally, I prefer the English "Activity" vs. "active". If these are different technologies I'm all :ear :deal
  18. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    :hmmmmm
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    :y0!
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    Why dwell on the past? :deal
  19. Emmbeedee

    Emmbeedee Procrastinators

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    I asked first. Why not? It's not like the files take up significant space and nobody's forcing anyone to look at them, but that's one of the reasons I have a gps - to keep a record of the roads I've traveled. It's not often that I go back to the Archive, but I have done so a few times.

    [​IMG]

    With the 60/76 series there's nothing you can do with tracks while out in the field, but the Montana and all the other modern Garmin units allow you to bring those tracks out of the Archive and use (Trackback) or share them with others, even wirelessly if it's a compatible unit you're sharing with.
  20. Boatman

    Boatman Upward and onward!!

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    Thanks for the link.


    Very rarely do I care to review a track. When I do I just plug the unit into the PC and view/save it.

    Yup. :lol3