New Garmin Montana

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by AugustFalcon, May 18, 2011.

  1. SteveAZ

    SteveAZ Long timer

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    Wish for timed auto power off function. Tired of dead battery(s) from leaving it on. Many other battery operated devices have this feature and it's very useful and would be extremely easy to implement on a GPS... Oh well...
  2. USAIR

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    There is a battery save feature.... setup /display

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  3. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    So, you want a "Power Off if no movement in 2hours" feature?
  4. atlas cached

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    Again, use a relay.
  5. SteveAZ

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    That actually makes things worse. It turns off the display and makes it even more likely to set the unit down and forget it's powered up. I can't tell you how many times I pick up the unit and then have to plug it in because I've set it down powered up and it's drained and I'm either throwing out a set of AA's or know I'm reducing the life of the more expensive Li battery for no good reason.


    That would be good. Even simpler, power off after two hours (or one hour or half an hour, my radios do it like this and have similar "stand-by" battery draws) on battery (movement or no) would be ok with me. Send a message box up like it does when you remove external power that says it's powering down unless you tell it not to... tell it not to and it restarts the auto-power off timer...

    I know it would help me a lot. no matter how many times I kill the battery I still keep setting it down powered up. Sometimes it's after using it handheld. Sometimes it's after setting it up. Sometimes it's because I go turn it on and set it down while waiting for it to complete the lengthy (too long in my book!) power up cycle and get distracted....
  6. SteveAZ

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    How on earth will a relay help?
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    Press here.
  8. Callahan

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    Doh!
  9. atlas cached

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    It never occurred to me you were referring to the Montana battery running empty because you were to absent minded to remember to turn it off.

    I have seen some pretty silly complaints about the Montana, but this one takes the cake!

    I suggest this solution:

  10. SteveAZ

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    It has a power button? I knew there were helpful people here!

    It's happened to me quite a few times. In the few months of I've owned the unit I'll bet it's happened around ten times. I've tossed new sets of alkalines and I'm certain it's hard on the Li. Some of it probably has to do with the long start up times. This is not a unit that lends itself to powering on and off frequently for intermittent use. Even without a lot of BirdsEye it takes mine ~45secs to power up. Load it up with a lot BirdsEye and maps and we're talking minutes.

    I dunno. All of my two-way radios have this feature and it helps a lot to make sure the radio will power up when needed and saves batteries. And unlike floptana they don't take any time at all to power up. It would cost nearly $0 to incorporate, just a simple setting, a timer and a warning screen. Granted, ADVriders are primarily vehicle powered users. I'm guessing this is a much more common problem among handheld users than you all might think.


    I'm pretty sure I could rant about some of the less silly problems with the unit if that's what you all would prefer...
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    Check!
  12. Emmbeedee

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    I just wish I could get this darn thing to store a database of odours. Then it would be perfect.

    ;)
  13. achesley

    achesley Old Motorcyclist

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    Thanks for the info. It does have a screen protector. I guess that's coming off. :clap:clap:clap
  14. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Your comparison to your radio's is relevant with respect to the battery issue. But, you should have stopped there. Your radio isn't trying to read into active memory gigabytes of data (your maps & BirdEye Imagery) when you push the power button. If you don't change that Map data between Power Down/Up cycles it shouldn't take so long to boot up.

    Least you think ADVrider's are the prime market for the Montana, guess again. We are so overshadowed by the Geocachers and "other" users, we should feel lucky that we get any of our Feature Requests addressed. If the "other" users of the Montana wanted to be saved from themselves there would certainly be the code you are looking for.

    Oh, feel free to rant...we've learned to ignore it:rofl
  15. SteveAZ

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    I understand what you mean about them being different. My point was mostly about how the auto-power off being a good thing.

    I do think the long power up time contributes a lot to my problem leaving the unit on since I don't like to have to wait for it to power up. It doesn't seem to matter much that I don't change the data though. I guess I just don't understand why it takes so long. It can't really be reading all of that data into "active memory". I assume it's indexing it or something along those lines but it just seems it takes a lot longer than it should - that there must be a better way to store the data so that it could do that indexing (or whatever) in a much shorter time.

    I agree that ADVriders are not a principle market - you and I have agreed about that in the past. I don't agree that Garmin addresses its market needs very well though. You and I have disagreed about that in the past too! :D

    I do and you should! The guys that try to make it personal and throw barbs and insults make me laugh though. It's just an internet forum! :lol3

    I do think that people like me that don't share the view of the folks out there that really like the emperor's new clothes should feel free to point out the foibles of the unit though. I wish I had seen more of the negative prior to purchase - If I knew then what I know now I doubt I would have made the time/money investment...but I have and I'll live with it!
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I don't believe in stress induced by "things" in my life. If it were me, I'd be looking elsewhere and I'd cut my loses (and stress) and sell it. :deal
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    I think you're in the minority. Most of the things you complain about only seem to affect you. As far as I can tell, you're the cause of most of your own issues by doing things like wiping out directories whenever you don't like their size, etc.

    We have two Montanas in this house and they are both reliable. Just because we've nothing substantial to complain about does not makes us any less demanding than you.
  18. HighFive

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    Late to the party.......ok very late. But, I'm here. My 650T arrived today. Yippee! :norton

    I've read about 60 pages of this Thread, so far. Good stuff....but ugh....long way to go yet.

    Here's my New Owner's Stupid Question:

    Regarding the AMPS Rugged powered mount, has anyone cut the wire for a short lead (say only 6" from the mount base)? If so, are the positive & negative power wires still red and black under that sheath? Do they run same color nose tip to tail?

    Anytime I see a junction/splitter halfway along the wires, it raises the question: "What's it look like on this side of the fence?

    I already have an SAE lead wired in at my handlebar (for my old 60csx). I just want to splice an SAE plug onto the Rugged Mount power wire very close to the unit, to make that connection.....instead of pulling the whole wire harness thru the bike to my Fuzeblock at the battery.

    HF :ear
  19. DRTBYK

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    Red & Black all the way...go for it.
  20. Emmbeedee

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    Check this post in the Wisdom and FAQ thread.