New Garmin Monterra (not a typo!)

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by lmychajluk, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    I think the downside to that idea is that the cover gives you water ingress protection, but not if it is open and a jack plugged in.
  2. mwinder

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    Turn the unit so the jack is on the bottom....

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  3. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    That's funny. If you drop your bike on a water crossing, it will go to the bottom too. :-)
  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    * Added setting to pause music while navigation voice plays
    Dan Notes: Found under Routing Settings, Music Behavior now gives you the option of pausing, lowering volume or doing nothing when Nav Directions are given. The Pause works very well at least with my Sena.
    * Added settings widget to adjust screen brightness and orientation lock
    * Improved Birdseye image quality
    * Fixed not calculating distance or ETA for direct routing
    Dan Notes: Included in the Direct Routing fix, is Track Navigation. The Magenta active navigation line we are use to is rendered parallel to and on the right side of the original Track line (when set to Show on Map) indicating direction of travel for those of us that drive on the "correct" side of the road (see below). All in all, a very nice implementation but it does still have a few bugs in it. If you’re using the nuvi Dashboard don't touch the Turn Info or Navigation Info nuvi banner or GOA will crash more often than not. I prefer to use the Small Data Fields when Navigating Tracks anyway and switch to a non-routable map. I think this will be one of the better Track Navigation implementations in the On The Trail group of Garmin devices once the little bugs are taken care of.

    Track Navigation:

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    * Fixed intersection search for certain maps
    * Fixed some waypoints not appearing on MPC maps
    * Fixed inconsistencies with large datafield dashboard
    * Fixed translation issues
    * Fixed some text getting cut off on huge font size
    * Fixed not being able to reprogram chirp™
    * Fixed preloaded waypoints becoming unreadable in Basecamp after opening
    * Fixed GB Discoverer layering issue
    * Fixed HTML not parsing in geocache logs
    * Fixed certain paths not changing color based on routing activity
    * Fixed map legend not updating with auto-zoom
    * Fixed some aviation data fields not displaying correctly
    * Fixed geocache details not displaying full geocache name
    * Fixed possible issue when viewing a route with to many vias
    Dan Notes: Along-road Routes with more than 50 via points will no longer crash GOA. Instead, Routes will truncate at 50pts. Direct Routes can have 250pts.
  5. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    Fantastic. Great to see the Monterra team are working.
  6. MN_Smurf

    MN_Smurf Capt_Confusion

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    Damn it, Dan....I wasn't going to spend the money on one of these just yet, but now I might have to, since it seems like Garmin is listening to the issues and actively improving these units. I blame you because you wrote your review too well.
  7. kave

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    Well, I tried it just now, it seems Track navigation is worse than before
    Very "small" tracks with few points in them seems to work better now. At least we get a ETA now.

    On more detailed tracks that worked fine before, nothing happens when the Track is activated, no blue line, nothing.

    Now when previewing a track on the map, it takes 10-30 seconds before it shows up. Before no special wait time. This is a track that is 40km long.

    Now GOA crashes extremely often. First time I launched maps it just crashed again. I think it was more or less stable in its earlier version, but this is not good at all.

    Adding the screen brightness widget was an extremely bad afterthought. Why not add it to the widget we already have for selecting brightness on or off and WiFi etc?

    To me this update was one step forward and 10 backwards.
  8. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    As you can see from my post above, it is working for me. There are a couple of bugs that I've found that will crash GOA but you can eliminate them by using non-routable maps and not using the nuvi Dashboard. It would appear that routing data in the routable maps is causing an issue.

    If the above doesn't help with your problem I would suggest doing a Master Reset but only if you understand the issues of recovering your Apps and data.
  9. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    Thank you Dan. I must have missed the "Non routable" map comment.
    In my case I have to go to the home screen, using the Back button, after the track is activated before the track shows up with its blue line.

    This makes it work even on routable maps. I tried both City Navigator and our Swedish Topo map that is routable.

    The Color option to show on the map has a new bug. It doesn't show with the correct color anymore.
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Mine was inconsistent using routable maps and the nuvi Dashboard.

    As long as my Track Colors are anything other than Black, the Track Manager has indicated the correct color. If a Track was colored Black then the Track Manager always has indicated Cyan--but the Track is properly colored on the map for me.
  11. kkm

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    I just had to see if the Monterra can work like Garmin says. After one week it is going back to Garmin. The first one sent to me had to go back because of a screen defect. The second one locks up just looking at it. What a complete pile of SHIT.
    Kevin
  12. mwinder

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    Mine has never locked up. But im not a gps power user.

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  13. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    To bad you had such a bad experience. First I've heard of a Monterra where the OS had stability issues. Android 4.0.4 has been rock solid on the ones I've tested.
  14. StuInFH

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    Hmm, panic at first as I chose navigate track, saw the track at high level of zoom, zoomed in and then no track on screen. Went to Track Manager and Show on Map, checked box (like Dan said), and there track was on screen now, but still only one line. Then backed out to home screen like above and back to map and then the two parallel lines showed up. Sure would be frustrating if no forum for these hints and tips.

    But now my CN map is not showing in Map Info screen. :-( Still see it in the same Garmin folder next to Topo US 24K. Not using any dashboard either (tried small font and others). Forced closed, hard reboot, etc. Good thing weather cancelled trip in morning, lesson is to never install "update" right before a trip.
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Yes, a lesson learned by many, never mess with your GPS's software unless you have a few days to deal with it.

    I have about 30 Apps installed on my Monterra and many Wi-Fi, Bluetooth configurations and Custom Profiles--none of which are really backed-up well and have to be re-configured after a Master Reset (Factory data reset). It takes me about 1.5hrs to recover from a MR and I have it down pretty good these days. BUT, it does seem to cure some rather flaky behavior now and then after updates.
  16. StuInFH

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    Yup, I had to cancel trip days ago, so it's an ok time to geek around with this update. I considered your MR tip from above, but dread the rework of course, even with only a fraction of your customization. Wonder if I were to un and reinstall CN map set if GOA would then see it? Would be a lot easier to try than a MR for sure.
    thanks
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I can think of only two reasons that the GOA isn't loading the CN map:
    1. You have too many map tiles (4000max) in the maps you have in storage.
    2. You don't have a good GMA (unlock file) file loaded in either of the /mnt/sdcard/Garmin/GMA or /mnt/ext-sdcard/Garmin/GMA folders.

    Deleting and reinstalling can't hurt...

    :dunno
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    Wow, a lot of unhappy campers to say the least. I’m going to upgrade my GPS for this season, sounds like I should get a Montana and forget the Monterra. (I just had hope it would work with the GS911 as well)

    :hmmmmm
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    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    While I don't expect Garmin is going to add SPP Bluetooth support (required by the current Bluetooth GS-911), the Wi-Fi works very well and the GS-911 folks are coming out with a Wi-Fi model sometime.
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    Now that would be a great upgrade! Thanks for the info!
    :lurk