New Garmin Monterra (not a typo!)

Discussion in 'Mapping & Navigation' started by lmychajluk, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. loph917

    loph917 Beard Bros Racing

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    assuming all goes well i'll have a monterra next week. i'll give garmin's default app a shot but my backup plan is osmand or locus. i already have a montana but that will get handed down to my riding partner (she can lead for once!).

    also looking forward to using one hardwired device for music so i can save the battery on the phone while traveling.

    both the montana and monterra threads have been excellent sources of information. thanks for everyone's efforts. :freaky
  2. cotton

    cotton Adventurer

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    Do not let Garmin mess up your trip!! Enjoy your time. Brother and I got back from a 6 day ride and had a blast. Used the Monterra the whole trip. Was before this last update. Only problem I had was the internal memory filled up with pictures and lost some waypoints. Now have a camera app to write to the sd card. Why Garmin's will not be this is beyond me. Anyway have a great trip.


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  3. Elsjo

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    Is the Monterra qua routing on the same level as the Montana? Thinking about ordering a Monterra because I realy mis the bluetooth and MP3 would be nice too.
  4. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    The Monterra may be slightly more Route capable in that it allows you to edit saved/transferred Routes and add multiple via points to a route.
  5. Elsjo

    Elsjo Adventurer

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    Thanks
  6. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    Is it a good idea to remove all Google accounts etc? Every time I start my device it installs more meaningless apps that I havent chosen.
    I will try a complete wipe of the unit and after that no Google accounts.
    Since I cant use anything like contacts and adresses in the Garmin apps they arr pointless anyway. Strange, Navigon on the iPhone is much better in that regard.
  7. 420AllDay

    420AllDay n00b

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    You can still associate your google account with the Monterra and bypass restoring all of your apps and accounts from google backup. I still have access to gmail, maps and Drive, and have installed Poweramp and Spotify for music, Evernote for important info. Otherwise nothing else goes on the GPS.
  8. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    I have not found that to be necessary. The worthless Apps you may be referring to are the standard Android Apps that must be installed. As for other third-party Apps, they are up to you.

    I thought you were selling your Monterra?
  9. 420AllDay

    420AllDay n00b

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    He probably has the setting turned on to automatically update apps. In this regard the definition of "meaningless" is up to the individual.
  10. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    Dtrbyk: i also get errors about not communicating with google servers, on some rides every fifth minute. If ditching the google account fixes this one for all its not a big sacrifice.
    Its not automatic upgrades I am talking about, i still get new apps from google even though I didnt have them at all to begin with, like Talk for example. I have never chosen to install that one, and it wasnt on the unit originally.
    My Monterra is for sale, but I still use it from time to time.
  11. 420AllDay

    420AllDay n00b

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    Talk is a core Google app, it has been on my Monterra from the beginning. Talk functionality was integrated into Hangouts in 2013, it's not even being updated.

    I've never gotten an error message about not communicating with google servers. You might want to:

    • Turn off sync in Settings/Accounts & Sync
    • Ensure that no backup or restore boxes are checked in Settings/Backup & reset
    • Turn off Auto-update apps in Google Play settings
  12. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    If anyone is curious...got my replacement mount from Garmin in mail, hooked it up same as other one and unit recognized being mounted, all is good! After I removed the first/bad one I hooked + and - directly to battery, verified the 12.85V at pin, popped in unit and it worked fine. Hmmm.

    Checked the new one's voltage with meter by grounding the meter to the pin next to center pin and then grounded to the bars, got no difference, 12.85 at each. OK, so that was different than the old one, which had a 1V difference doing that. Checked the old one with meter grounding to batt when + was hooked directly to batt and got 12.85.

    I had used the same ground point with both when mounted to bike, so only measured difference I can report is that the old one had 1V less at center pin using its ground wire to bike steering head, vs grounding the meter to the bars. Hard to believe that would make a difference to the unit recognizing the mount, but I played with power and grounds for quite a while with old one, jiggling wires and connections and such and couldn't get unit to work (or the voltage to drop). Until the new one arrived!

    Will install the old one on DS bike and test it for awhile, on non-critical rides of course. And I won't ground to steering head/fender mount, will ground to harness or direct. Wondering if that is a bad idea, grounding to front end. I usually go to harness for stuff.
  13. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    Thats not the best place for a ground, since the only connection between stering bar and frame are the bearings that haver grease witch isolates them

    Sent from my GT-S5570
  14. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Yeah, that was what I was thinking-conventional wisdom, but it tested fine, showing constant volts at pin but mount no workie after many months of working fine. New one same ground, works fine. Could be problem though, electricity is more magical than magic to me. :-) And there was the 1V differential between grounding to pin and grounding to handlebars, so that is my only guess too. Besides magic.

    thanks
  15. webmonstro

    webmonstro A Aventura Continua....

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    Problem is your mesureing whitout a load, once it starts charging i bet it will go down in volts. I had a bar connecton on a GPS charger that would only keep charge aboive a certin point, if it was fully deschared it would not take charge

    Sent from my GT-S5570
  16. Chazbo

    Chazbo Been here awhile

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    We are having a great ride and the Monterra has been performing very well. The glitch that appeared, disappeared just as quickly. Made it to the Arctic Circle today! Took a nasty spill yesterday on the Dempster and may have bruised a rib. I am very happy with the Monterra except my heated gloves don't like the touchscreen. I treated them with AnyGlove but my results have been hit and miss. I am very happy with the Monterra. I have a fuel logging app and it is so convenient to make my entries on the Monterra while right at the pump.
  17. StuInFH

    StuInFH Been here awhile

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    Ah. I liked the quick disconnect charging harness solution, so went with that. Extended my trickle charger harness up to mount and put a matching plug on the mount (reversing polarity of course), all soldered and heat-shrunk connections, so should be good for my AK trip now. thanks
  18. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    New version out now, dont know how to use Express since it cant see the Monterra.


    http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=6107

    Monterra software version 3.20
    as of June 10, 2014

    Use Garmin Express to install this file.

    (224.93 MB)

    Notes:

    Version 3.20_1.21
    - Added two additional zoom levels at 20/30ft (5/10m)
    - Improved city search
    - Improved map information bar dropdown behavior
    - Fixed geocache size getting cut off on widget in certain languages
    - Fixed saving waypoints in incorrect locations for certain Map Datums
    - Fixed additional routing avoidance issues
    - Fixed elevation plot not scrolling with new data
    - Fixed possible issue if device started in a powered mount
    - Fixed possible issue with User Grids in certain languages
    - Fixed a drawing issue with certain patterned areas
    - Fixed transparent maps not drawing with only the basemap enabled
    - Fixed geocaching dashboard not switching to the closest geocache
    - Fixed daily and weekly track auto-archive
    - Fixed geocache filtering not respecting empty filters
    - Fixed Where To? > Photos and Videos not updating with new photos
    - Fixed various display issues with the Satellite app
    Change History
    Changes made from version 2.90 to 3.20:
    Added two additional zoom levels at 20/30ft (5/10m)
    Improved city search
    Improved map information bar dropdown behavior
    Fixed geocache size getting cut off on widget in certain languages
    Fixed saving waypoints in incorrect locations for certain Map Datums
    Fixed additional routing avoidance issues
    Fixed elevation plot not scrolling with new data
    Fixed possible issue if device started in a powered mount
    Fixed possible issue with User Grids in certain languages
    Fixed a drawing issue with certain patterned areas
    Fixed transparent maps not drawing with only the basemap enabled
    Fixed geocaching dashboard not switching to the closest geocache
    Fixed daily and weekly track auto-archive
    Fixed geocache filtering not respecting empty filters
    Fixed Where To? > Photos and Videos not updating with new photos
    Fixed various display issues with the Satellite app
  19. DRTBYK

    DRTBYK All Things GPS

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    Garmin seems to still thinks everyone uses Windoze. They do know that Mac-GE cannot see the Monterra. I called and required the Tech to enter a Ticket #. If you don't get them to do that your call/problem is not registered.

    As for the 3.20 update, just use OTA.
  20. kave

    kave Gravel rules

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    Huh, after my Monterra being off for two weeks I just started it up and I saw a new message "Process android.process.acore have been stopped".
    Sounds serious :)
    Edit: Later investigations found that it still fills up the internal memory with a 2GB large file in Garmin/GPX/Archive.

    Thank you DRTBYK who recommended a file manager on the Monterra.