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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 2, 2010.
The Crosstourer is is Beasts.. and the Crossrunner in Road Warriors.. punted that CT post to Beasts.
I like it, though I very much dislike the bags!
that is pure porn i hope it takes a while to come out give me a chance to save the coin
I had to give it a second look, I thought I was looking at an R1200GS Adv.
Incidentally, if its the same V4 as in the VFR1200, expect K1300S levels of zoomy zip.
While it probably won't take up a spot in my garage, it's nice to see Honda finally come out with an option at least.
Let's hope they bring it to the US.
Look at the background european or EU flag in one of the pictures on this link , with the statement ....Europe is our most cherished market !!!
2012 Model , so it may make it to the states in a few YEARS ! time ! if at all ?
Most cherished - most profitable.
I had a '94 VFR an loved it. My thought is that perhaps they have a LOT of the V-4 motors available and have to get their money out of the engineering (are new VFR's selling that well? I have yet to see one on the road and the same two have been at the dealer here for months). It's just not the motor I'd expect for this type of bike. I'm sure Honda has a plan to get some torque down low in the V-4 for a bike intended to be ridden on gravel (??) some of the time. Otherwise, it should be awesome on the road. A little too much plastic for me, but looks nice overall!
Get ready, though, someone is bound to try to do a comparo with their XR
I'm sure 1200 cc's goes a long way towards providing torque.
Good job Honda!!
Hmm...could be a nice bike but I'm going to be very surprised if it's not too heavy, too expensive, and too unobtainable (in the US) based on recent Honda trends. Too bad.
The prices of Africa Twins will continue rising.
In my neck of the woods we are now at 3500 to 4000 euros.
I like it very much except...the bags.
Not bad....the looks starts to grow in me.And it's a Honda.Most trustworthy reliable brand.
But still,it would still be another fat ass bike.Why can't they design something more slim.Like the dominator,or at least like the transalp650.
However,I still have my feelings glued to yamaha in terms of performance.Yamaha gives you all the smiles.Yeah....at the moment...still yamaha.
Somehow I don't see Yamaha shaking in their boots right now. But still, it's good to see Honda doing something/anything, to awaken from their dormant period.
Can't help but think Honda have got it arsed about face. The 800 should be the off road oriented bike and the 1200 should be road, cross runner. Surely 110-115bhp is possible from the 800 put it on a diet too and you have plenty for a on/off road tourer. Who's gonna take that big 1200 off road with any confidence? Jimmy Lewis maybe, not me. I predict the 1200 GS will be about 50kg lighter than the 1200 honda.
I like the design direction of both the crosses and applaud honda for making them. Price and weight will decide their popularity though.
One has an excellent dealer network, known for everlasting durability, completely lacks any sensibility to good design / aesthetics, and will be, without a doubt, the ugliest adventure bike on the planet.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
The other is a Moto Guzzi.
that would make sense but everyone wants to play in the GS 1200cc beast shaftdrive adv segment.
notice how all the bikes are generally designed the same way...after the 1200 gs. i can see other players coming in. this is THE segment to compete in from the mfg. perspective and thus this new honda.
i just hope it stays at 1200cc and it's doesn't become an engine size race which would be dumb.
the 800cc market is such a newer segment is extremely varied from street bike to adv bikes. honda just entered w/ a hybrid nothing more nothing less. they actually might be on something cutting edge if you look at all the beasts that never make it offroad anyway. this is huge in europe.
Coming off the disappointment with the 800cc CrossRunner - not even coming to the US - this seems to me to be the better of the 2 for my purposes: daily commuting [w/lane-splitting] in all weather conditions, and very rare multi-day rides.
I love shafties for their [relative] minimal maintenance, I like the grunt associated w1200cc bikes, I loved the V-4 engine on my ST1300, I loved my Honda linked-ABS brakes, and I loved how bullet-proof my Honda was.
Can't wait to see how this works out in real-world evaluations. Could be a winner...!