New Honda 1200 V4 CrossTourer!!!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. R3B

    R3B Lazy Motorcyclist

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    I would not dare to say the GS is as Ugly as the MG, though it *is* ugly in its own right. I think Honda has hit the nail in exact the right place for the Honda Crowd, a lean and "honda"-mean ST1200.


    For al those Pan Earopean riders who want to think they are going the long way around



    (the coffee teble)


    Seriously i think its nicely done for a streetcred bike, better looking than a S10 which looks way more purpose built.
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  2. markjenn

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    It's just strange. Strange looks, strange positioning in the market, strange idea to base it on the 1200cc VFR sport bike platform, strange positioning vs. the GS, strange positioning vs. the Crossrunner, strange positioning vs. the ST1300, etc. I know exactly what the GS/S10 is designed for, exactly what the new Multistrada is designed for, and exactly what the new 800cc Tigers are designed for. This bike.... I'm not sure.

    Like the VFR1200F, it may end being a brilliant bike in the way it works, but Honda's product strategy these days is so weird, I'm not sure they'll be able to effectively pitch it where it will gain traction, especially now that the adventure segment has been discovered by every tom/dick/harry and worthy competitors are everywhere. And there is the perenial issue of Honda's cost competitiveness.

    I wish them luck though - it is an interesting bike and perhaps one that fits what a lot of riders want to do even if they don't know it yet.

    - Mark
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  3. Reverse

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    Looks nice, and competition in the adventure market can only benefit us, the riders. I don't expect to be buying it, since it will probably be sized for midgets (32" seat height), unlike my Adventure.

    It is a blatant BMW design ripoff though, they even copied the beak.
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  4. markjenn

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    Not that it's important, but I'm hard pressed to think of two bikes that are ostensibly aimed for the same market that are less similar than this bike and a GS.

    - Mark
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  5. BMR

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    Please describe too heavy? Is that to mean it's heavier than the current bikes it was designed to compete with?
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  6. DELTATANGO

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    I bet there won't be entire volumes dedicated to the final drive crapping out.
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  7. eakins

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  8. Rick West

    Rick West Function not Farkles

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    Yamaha S10 is the class champ of too heavy.:puke1 Hopefully this bike will not be as overweight.
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  9. ~TABASCO~

    ~TABASCO~ www.rideonadv.com

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    75 Lbs is in the stock S10 Exhaust can... Take that sucker off and its .5Lbs lighter than the GS.... :lol3 Just for your info ! :wink: :lol3
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  10. JimNtexas

    JimNtexas Been here awhile

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    I think it will be like most bikes these days, designed with a 'short people have no reason to ride' philosophy. I'd be surprised if the seat height was much less than 32". Just look at the NT700. It has a very high seat for no reason at all except for laziness on the part of the designer.

    Honda knows how to make a short person friendly standard bike, they did it with the ST1300. Sadly that bike seems to be an aberration.

    Lots of short people, especially women and shorty girly-men wind up buying cruisers just because they can sit on one in the showroom without feeling like they are balancing on a high wire.
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  11. John Ashman

    John Ashman Adventurer Wannabe

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    I hear it comes with a standard fog horn.
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  12. SCQTT

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    I wonder if there will be an automatic version.

    Looks exactly like Zero Haliburton did the luggage....you toocan look like a late 80's drug dealer. :)

    Looks like tubeless spoke wheels :clap

    Probably just right for this segment....the appearance of off-road capability.
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  13. GrahamD

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    No the BMW GSA is the class champ, if you actually measure the things and not believe the manufacturers BS.

    Cheers
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  14. atgreg

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    another overweight piece of shit roadbike like the GS & ST, honda lost its balls years ago
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  15. Pulasky

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    Sad but true.
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  17. PizzaHog

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    ...so say many of you, with a combined total of how many minutes in the saddle?

    The same things were said of my ST1300, and I quite liked it for any number of reasons.

    Personally, I look forward to hearing more about the bike. It might be perfect for me - or, it might not. I don't base my opinions solely on pics; the basic specs seems favorable to me.
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  18. *thomas*

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    Honda does not need an adv bike in 2011/12, they need one NOW!

    And, I don't like it at all. I've never liked the look of gs(a)'s, but at least they 'look' plain and simple, honda always put bikes on the market that are toooo much.

    Can't see the use of a 1200cc ultra modern V4 engine in an adv bike...
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  19. GrahamD

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    In Australia, South Africa, the Americas and NZ an ADV bike is a go anywhere, (well as far as you can) bike.

    In Europe an Adventure Bike is a bike that can do most any tarmac or cobble stones on back roads between B&B and pubs that are more than 20 minutes away from your residence and has a beak.
    Any bloody bike would do but at the moment it has to have a beak and look like you could go to Africa.

    So the Honda is probably right up their ally. (Paved of course)

    Many reviewers bon't even bother trying them on the dirt and use sports or touring bike criteria to rate them.

    This is why the DL650 was given so much cred back in 2005. It works well on twisty mountain roads and was comfortable enough for two up between B&B's. Dirt performance wasn't even considered.

    Cheers
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  20. Pulasky

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    Mr. Honda... look and learn.

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