New Honda 1200 V4 CrossTourer!!!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,425
    Location:
    Blue Mnts Ozstralia
    Honda have noted the sales figures, electrical and water pump issues and have done something different.

    The world already has KTM's, and the way Honda is pricing things at the moment they would probably be the same price anyway so why bother?

    KTM's don't have DCT transmission, 3 way adjustable (average) shocks and all the other gee whiz bangery that seems to be so important these days. like USB ports, bluetooth, RJ45 jacks, wi-fi and SDcard slots and built in routers and battery chargers.

    Big oversight on Honda's part not including all that stuff really. :lol3
    #61
  2. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,352
    Location:
    Carnation, WA USA
    Amen. Give me a longer stroked, slightly lower performance engine (better mpg), in a reliable (better water pump) 950 / 990 Adventure package and I'm there. Until then, :cry .
    #62
  3. Rad

    Rad Just me

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2001
    Oddometer:
    12,176
    Location:
    Santa Cruz, Calif
    I wish manufactures would build bikes exactly like I want….Daymn.

    These two come close, even closer if they could be combined.

    I loved both my VFR’s, gear driven cams and my Vtec. I Just sold my Vtec ‘cause shoulder surgery pretty much ruled out long distance runs on much of anything without a sit-up-and-beg riding style.

    The Crosstour appears ok from a function perspective for me but I really don’t need a bike with the power or size of that 1200, even for cross country runs. My VFR, 800cc was more than enough to run all over the country fully loaded.

    That leaves the Crossrunner. It is the proper size, but I do like a shaft on my touring bikes, daymn.

    I learned a long time ago not to rule out a bike based on my first impressions. More than once I have changed my mind and warmed up to the design and ended up with the bike and loved it. I can think of three such designs in the last decade, the BMW GS, the Vtec VFR and the BMW RT. I Hated them all at first, I ended up with all three and enjoyed them all.
    #63
  4. GrahamD

    GrahamD Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2009
    Oddometer:
    5,425
    Location:
    Blue Mnts Ozstralia
    Looks like the S10 is should be on the test ride short list next year then :lol3
    #64
  5. John Ashman

    John Ashman Adventurer Wannabe

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,564
    Location:
    Viejo Mexico
    I don't even think there are dirt roads in Europe, except in the Eastern part.
    #65
  6. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

    Joined:
    May 1, 2009
    Oddometer:
    224
    Location:
    Everett, Socialist Republic of WA(aaaaaahh)
    or gixxer 1000/R1/CBR 1000 etc.
    #66
  7. mantan

    mantan Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2006
    Oddometer:
    482
    Location:
    Silly-Con Valley
    Looks better than the Yamaha Super Tenere.
    #67
  8. Pulasky

    Pulasky Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2007
    Oddometer:
    245
    Location:
    Poland
    I don't think so :)

    [​IMG]
    #68
  9. iconman

    iconman Good vibrations

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,067
    Location:
    Denmark South West WA

    I just got a stiffy...
    #69
  10. mantan

    mantan Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2006
    Oddometer:
    482
    Location:
    Silly-Con Valley
    you like the Yamaha better, good for you. Bonus points for inserting the picture of a significantly customized concept version of the Yamaha to show that your subjective opinion on looks is more correct.
    #70
  11. JimmieA

    JimmieA Long timer

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2005
    Oddometer:
    1,280
    Location:
    Eastern Canada
    I love my Varadero. I would urge you to get one while you can, they will run out of stock at some point. The price is not too bad. Old Hondas become much loved Hondas as far as I can tell. I would advise to keep the XRL as a single track bike for a few years. I can honestly say that I have not worn out my street plated XR400R though and I have not ridden my DR650SE in a year. The XL1000VA is not light, is not a KTM950. etc but is is a great Adventure tourer and it is one hell of a lot cheaper than the new 1200 will be. AND IT HAS CHAIN DRIVE!!! Drive shafts (u-joints)do not like long travel suspensions at all. I think I would perfer a Vtwin to a V4 in an adventure tourer and who (at least in Canada) would need the power of a 1200, the 1000 has more than enough. My friend had a like 196X Honda 90 or some such. He went into the Honda dealer and got basically every part he needed to restore the bike. The parts man was his brother in law but he told me this story and I believe it is true.

    From what I can determeine from the many hours I have spent on this site is that there are 100 different peoples version of an adventure bike. Some say the Suzuki DRZ400 is an ADV bike than there is the GS1200 and everything inbetween.

    I want to be able to do 1000 mile days in something near comfort, I want to do gravel roads, I want something near weather protection like a good windsheild, heated grips and enough juice to power heated vest is good. I need enough weight in the bike to withstand side winds and transport trucks and bad spots on the roads, I need to be able to carry enough luggage to be on a long trip in some comfort, I want a great big gas tank even if it weights a ton, I like to be going 100 MPH when I pass a transport truck if I want to, I want good gas mileage, like a KLR650 or better even if I weight about twice what he weights and am wider by a bunch. Nice to be able to get aftermarket accessories for the bike too at a fair cost. A dead reliable bike and a good dealer network is a good thing too. All this and some things I forgot is the XL1000VA Honda Varadero my gentle readers.

    JimmieA.
    #71
  12. Goldburg

    Goldburg Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2009
    Oddometer:
    407
    Location:
    Eastern NC
    I've never fallen for a wheel before today...whatisdat?:eek1
    #72
  13. AJB1

    AJB1 Retired

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2005
    Oddometer:
    48
    Location:
    LoUiSiAna
    Separated @ birth?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    #73
  14. lukasteam

    lukasteam Life is beautiful !!!

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Oddometer:
    527
    Location:
    Naperville,IL
    From the pictures seems like Crosstourer has a better ground clearance than Super Tenere...:clap Or is this just a wish full thinking ?
    #74
  15. VO1MX

    VO1MX Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2007
    Oddometer:
    228
    Location:
    North Bedeque
    :clap
    #75
  16. Motowalt

    Motowalt UNSTOPPABLE!

    Joined:
    May 28, 2008
    Oddometer:
    417
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    I kinda like it, as long as it comes with the standard transmission, and not the DCT.

    The tubeless wire wheels are a plus (wish I had 'em on my F800GS)...

    Those saddlebags are pure ugly, but the aftermarket will most likely come up with something more manly.

    Hopefully it weighs less and costs less then a GS1200.
    #76
  17. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2003
    Oddometer:
    10,479
    Location:
    Swellvue, WA
    If you can detect a difference in ground clearance based on these sorts of photos, you have a better eye than me. If anything, it looks like the S10 might be slightly higher.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    - Mark
    #77
  18. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,507
    Single sided swingarm on the Honda? Do Honda make any other bikes with single sided swingarms and shaft drive?




    #78
  19. DaFoole

    DaFoole Erudite inchoate...

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2004
    Oddometer:
    4,376
    Location:
    BFE, SW Oregon/SF BayO'rhea
    I think I like the looks of the Honda better than the S10....but I'm gonna go for what I can actually get.

    All and all I think they did a pretty good job.
    #79
  20. markjenn

    markjenn Long timer

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2003
    Oddometer:
    10,479
    Location:
    Swellvue, WA
    Yes, that's the VFR1200F under the adventure skin.

    - Mark
    #80