GrahamD, this is why I mentioned beloved Morini Granpasso. VERY tough frame and subframe, very powerfull motor (try any Morini 1200 - you will fall in love), monoblock engine design (brilliand and super rigid sump), surprisingly reliable (at least those 4 I am monitoring by talking to owners regularly) but not expensive. I mean - not at all for this class. They were going at 13 000 Euros here, that's less than GS or Multi or even S10 and Varadero was at 12400 Euro at same time. Chain, that's true. Well, nothing is ideal :) Still collecting money to buy one second hand. To be fair - quite a few of my friends own 2010 GSes (10 + people) and noone had any problem yet except blown shocks because they take those bikes to real sh...thole places. I still don't like GS thou :) But I fully support opinion that bike is enough to do adventure, any bike. And this one will be inevitably used by some people for RTW I guess. Still, turning on sparkly GS or GW in middle of Kurds village is a bit of...too much in the face of people, who earn 1 GS bolt worth of money in a month. Ooops, I am sidetracking again. Sorry.