New Honda 1200 V4 CrossTourer!!!

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Two Plugs

    Two Plugs Long timer

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    Wow... we are getting serious... Hence... the XLV750R competed in the Dakar in 1984... Before the cubic inches where limited to 450cc. Same goes for the GS. Started as R80GS. And even (to my limited knowledge) even up to 1200.

    Before the limitation... :deal
  2. fredz43

    fredz43 Been here awhile

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    I just returned from the MSTA national rally in CO and a Honda rep from Torrance was there with this bike on display and was seeking feedback on whether we thought AHM should bring it to the USA. I told him that I thought it was a nice bike, but wouldn't sell as welll as the Crosstourer.

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  3. Sock Monkey

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    Thanks for that fred!

    Maybe, just maybe, if other Honda reps ask at other Moto events about the Xtourers they'll get enough feedback to consider it. I know.....I'm dreaming, but hey......we gotta have dreams right?!?! :rofl

    -SM
  4. fredz43

    fredz43 Been here awhile

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    Yes, this rep works at AHM HQ and you may have seen him in videos when they introduce new models. I have known him for several years and had several discussions with him during the days he was at the rally. He knows that I am a long time Honda rider who now rides a Super Tenere because Yamaha offers USA riders something that Honda does not offer them right now. We'll see if it does any good.
  5. AussieKiwi

    AussieKiwi n00b

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    WTF are all these pics doing in the CrossTourer thread?
  6. twinrider

    twinrider pass the catnip

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    Because the bike came up in the course of discussion. Seems you haven't realized it with just 5 posts to your name but this happens frequently in advrider bike threads so it doesn't qualify as a WTF moment. :rofl

    Look up three posts up from yours to enjoy more pics of it...
  7. Roadscum

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    If they bring it .... I will buy it! don't need no stink'n Cross T, gotta S10! :deal

    egards, Paul
  8. RoadRdr

    RoadRdr Mostly Pavement

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    I've been following and contributing a bit to this thread for a long time now saying that if they bring it, I'll buy it. The lack of commitment from Honda and even lack of knowledge that it existed by some AHM reps at Americade lead me to believe I've wasted the past couple years. Honda is giving no indication of bringing it here.

    After reading reviews from those of you in countries where Honda thinks people actually ride their motorcycles I was even more excited about it coming to the US.

    I've said all along I was ready to plunk down the cash for a Crosstourer. Honda let me down. I've moved on in a big way.

    I picked up my new 2012 BMW R1200GS Adventure on Tuesday. So, Honda I'll be out of the new bike market for the next few years. Nice call on the part of some number crunching marketing douche that probably doesn't even ride at corporate Honda.

    Honda's motorcycle division is seriously out of touch. It's been happening for a few years and shows no signs of turning around. Good luck to you Crosstourer owners, enjoy them. Wish me luck. If I read the GSpot threads correctly, I'll need it.
    (But the GSA looks badass)
  9. 7seas10

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    Good move!
    Congratulations on your new GS!!

    I was hoping to sell my 2011 GS and get the Xtourer next year, unfortunately it won't happen.
    I'll keep enjoying my boxer, it is one of the best isn't it?

    Safe riding!
  10. Gooner

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    I've owned five VF/VFRs and would strongly consider one of these if AmHonda would let me. Guess either Yamaha or Triumph will end up with my business instead.
  11. bingbong

    bingbong Been here awhile

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    I'm guessing honda is stuck between a rock and a hard place with this bike. The price they need to sell them for makes them un competitive against the opposition, and the lack of 'goodies' as standard makes them look even worse value. From what I see the US generally have cheaper bike prices than Europe (except BMW perhaps) which makes it more difficult for them to sell the bike there. JMHO.
  12. Paulvt1

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    I'm still waiting - like a vulture perched over a man in the desert - for a DCT to pop up. I don't reckon it'll do well over here, which is a shame, as the tech is superb. Looking at a standard one again today - it still looks sweet. Finish quality is lush.
    I reckon you boys stateside will get it eventually.
  13. The Walrus

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    I'm in agreement that Honda USA is out of touch with many of us moto riders.

    I just returned from a trip which included some time in Hastings, England. I walked into the local Honda dealer and after a great conversation and some time looking on the showroom floor, I picked up the Honda Adventure pamphlet....

    CrossTourer
    XL1000V Varadero
    CrossRunner
    NC700X
    XL700V TransAlp
    XL125 Varadero

    Now, look up the Honda USA site and see what we can buy........the ancient XR650L or the Summer release of the NC700X.......

    The Brits told me that the Varadero will likely be discontinued and the USA has never seen one through a legitimate dealer.

    What a joke!

    I rode my XR650R's for a long time and modded them extensively but Honda will not see another of my dollars anytime soon.......

    A $6000 pound 2008 Varadero with 3900 miles.........

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    A $13,750 pound, brand new CrossTourer 1200 on the showroom floor..........notice the CrossRunner behind it.........

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    With a stronger dollar at today's exchange, that's around $22,000 for that bike......not what I would consider a great value either...
  14. Edmond Dantès

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    Is that a pound, as in pound my fist on the desk pound because the dollar price is too high?

    Oh, and Walrus, you look good sitting on that Varadero. Is the bike grated and waving ta-ta to the white cliffs enroute to the U.S of A?
  15. twinrider

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    Meaningless to guestimate US prices based on UK prices and exchange rates. Honda wouldn't be charging that price if it went stateside. Example: the CBR1100RR sells for £10,975 ($16,984) in the UK and $13,800 in the US.
  16. MoToad

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    Considering that I just bought a Stelvio NTX for $16190 here in Canada, I would hope they would figure this reasonable pricing more to our liking and factor that in.
  17. The Walrus

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    :nono

    I have too many bikes in my garage now......but Honda might have been one of them if they sold it here....no way I'll ever deal with a 'grey market' bike or crate in the USofA.....

    Agree......maybe the profit margin is a reason they don't import them? :dunno

    Unless/until Honda imports them, we'll never know for certain........Until then, I'll ride my BMW's and KTM's and Honda won't see another nickel of my USDollars....:deal
  18. Two Plugs

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    What is wrong with 'grey' import? OK, Original parts could be tricky but these days, they can be ordered around the Globe within 24h... 'Grey' import isn't an issieu anymore these days. Besides the 'official' imported models from f.e. GM, Ford USA and Chrysler there are many US cars imported in The Netherlands f.e., which officialy are not imported... They have created a huge network for (technical) support etc. But I agree, a bike as the Varadero (or Crosstourer) could never be imported in huge quantities like cars are...

    I know at least 2 of your fellow US of A residents who are (very) happy Varadero owners. Trey Hall is amongst the most 'famous'... he imported his bike (actually his 2nd Varadero) from the UK, a few years ago.
  19. bross

    bross Where we riding to?

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    Not even grey market, but I'd never buy another bike brought into Canada and NOT the US. Mainly for parts prices. I just sold my CBF1000 and one of the reasons was cost for parts, plus it was the most unreliable bike I've ever owned. Fuel pump went, $720, then the stator packed it in $550 in Canada but I bought one from the UK, $330 shipped to my door! :huh Never again Honda.
  20. markjenn

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    In the US at least, it is a complete can of worms. Getting the bike through customs and registered/titled is difficult if not impossible(especially for later model bikes which must meet federal safety and emissions certifications), insurance is sketchy, there is no warranty, and it makes no economic sense, especially for a bike that may end up being imported in a year or two (which would completely blow any resale of a grey-market bike out the window).

    I don't think our Euro friends understand the difficulties involved with 50 different states handling licensing, titling, and inspections. Things are different over here.

    Parts availability is the least of one's concerns.

    - Mark