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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Two Plugs, Nov 2, 2010.
that's old news on different bikes.
when he said Honda was we referring to corporate as in brand new models or just Honda NA referring to new models now being sold in the US?
if it's brand new models, the updated ST/Pan euro is to be built on this same platform so that could be 1 of them.
A friend of mine owns a m/c shop...Kawasaki & Susuki. I was lusting for a new bike and the only one that wetted my lust was the Ducati MTS. I told him that if one of the 4 major company's made something I wanted, I'd buy it...a MTS 'clone', but a GSXR/R1/etc. A R1, with hard bags/ up right riding position/etc would be a GREAT bike, but they won't build if, or if they do, it'll be 2-3 yrs too late. He said 'they' don't do things that way and take years to introduce something new.
Yamaha's been building it for years, it's called the FZ-1.
Honda US, he knew about the releases last month as we were talking about the CB1100. In addition, he did mentioned about the upcoming update to the ST1300.
I had an '08 FZ1 and put 25000 miles on it in 2.5 yrs, but it does not have when suspension, brakes AND motor of an R1! I put an Ohlin on the rear, Givi V35's + a host of other changes. It's a hell'eva bike for the $$$, but.....I'd be happy to pay the extra $$$ for the up grade in brakes/suspension and motor. I sold it 4 months ago, to a good friend of mine, and bought the bike I'd been lusting for....a Ducati MTS!
A couple friends of mine who own FZ1s just bought those parts from wrecked R1s and swapped them in.
Honda should bring in an ST with the 1200 VFR motor and the DCT transmission. They have already reduced the ridiculous amount of cruiser models.
But yes, the CrossTourer should be imported here...
...the VFR1200 T.
Just put some taller bars and screen and lower foot pegs and bigger fuel tank on the VFR1200F and viola!!!!
I'd buy one in a nano-second.
Geez that pic is BIG :huh
Oh man! That is frickin sweet!
There are a lot of fantastic models coming out and this would really stress me out....
The silly thing is that of the three bikes they have tried to build around that 1200 engine, it is this one ^^^ that makes most sense.
The motor is clearly too heavy to power a sport bike or an adventure tourer. Both are nice in their way but their performance envelope doesn't really match their appearance and ergos.
The version above could be no heavier than class rivals, with exceptional durability, low maintenance, plenty of poke and some character.
Not everybody wants 1650cc and six cylinders.
When you consider that most people, myself included, buy adventure tourers for their looks, comfort and prowess on bumpy back roads, the CT fits the bill fine.
It was on my short-list but Honda saw fit to not offer a single demo in the country where it's built!
They were going to release that one first but some doofus convinced than that a sports Tourer was the thing to do.
Then someone changed their minds and decided that the Adventure Tourer was the way to go.
Anyway an Adventure Tourer is a Tourer that can take a bit or a lot of crap. Luckily we have a good spread of options with different compromises from different manufacturers. The Honda just happens to be more Tour and Less Adventure than some others. The KTM is on the other end. Most people would be wasted on a KTM regardless what they think and they Honda makes more sense. Unless you just want people to think you are rugged and take trips down vertical cliffs on a regular basis.
But that is image not substance. The bike is what it is. You pays your money...It should suit a lot of people in reality.
Yeh. The VFR1200 'T'.
The bike was already announced in 2010 for 2011.
Old news. And because the 'T' is actually the VFR everyone wants, it wont come.
Yes, I have gathered the Crosstourer works notwithstanding the weight.
Has a lot going for it. I like it. And especially for riders who will be mainly on tarmac and never on anything soft. Which is most of them.
Nevertheless, it is IIRC the heaviest adventure tourer out there, with the shortest-travel suspension.
It represents one extreme of the category, on the weight (and in its case, suspension) scale.
As does the VFR1200F.
Whereas the T version pictured might not.
wOw, that VFR-1200-T looks beautiful, is this a Honda concept machine or is it going ahead for 2013/14 etc..? Suppose it'll replace the ageing Pan European motorcycle.
Honda should run security for the CIA...nobody has a clue what Big Red is doing?
well while the rest of the world manufacturers produce bikes with Monster motors, Honda keeps releasing a PLETHORA of mid sized motor bikes for the USA... who is buying all these 500 and 700cc engined bikes? very confusing...
The new Honda 500's aren't at dealers yet, but my local dealer has sold every NC700X he could get from Honda. He was able to get a couple more from other dealers to meet his customer requests.