New Honda NC700X Anyone ride one of these yet???

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JoeWannaB, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. Pecha72

    Pecha72 Long timer

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    Yep, the NC700 seems to be a very fuel-efficient engine.

    For comparison, I filled up this morning, and saw that I had got my DL650-2012 to go 100kms on 4.1 liters of fuel.. but this was all "stop and go" city-riding, haven´t had time to leave the urban area at all lately, on more steady touring-type of riding I do expect it to go down to about 3.3-3.6 liters for 100 kms. And the bike currently has less than 2000kms on it, that could also affect consumption a tiny bit. I´m using gasoline with 5% ethanol.

    (...now anyone care to enlighten me, how does one convert these funny European figures to US MPG??)
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  2. turbodieseli4i6

    turbodieseli4i6 Been here awhile

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    57 mpg isn't bad at all. Try this! http://www.markporthouse.net/rangie/fuelconsumptionconversion.htm The Dl650 is a great bike!
    Lets see you get 80 mpg US!! I will bet you can get close. If Honda hadn't made the NCX, I would have bought a WEE.
    I got 71 mpg my first tank but I'm just commuting.
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  3. JoeWannaB

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    I was in my local Honda/Kawi/Suz dealer picking up parts and noticed an NC700 on the showroom floor. I don't know if it was the "X" because it only had NC700 on the side cover but I was impressed by how small it seemed to me in person. I'll have to go back (20 miles away) when I have some time to give it a closer look but it wasn't what I was expecting. So maybe it wasn't the X because it seemed sized more like a crotch rocket with an upright riding position.
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  4. Kafn8td

    Kafn8td Been here awhile

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    My wife just bought a 2013 NC700X. It is a very fun bike to ride. Don't tell her it's not an adventure bike, because I have her convinced it's way more capable than my Speed Triple for the occasional excursion off the tarmac.
    Every bike i've ever owned has been an adventure bike.
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  5. amk

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    I just cannot see this bike as an "adventure" type, unless any dare out on a scoot down to a restaurant is an "adventure".

    The major design flaw is fuel tank orifice. Having it under the rear seat means to gas the NX up one needs to take off the rear luggage first, or never have one, limit yourself to side cases only. 14 L of gas is not more than 300 km of range, is this an adventure?
    All other are not big deals one by one, but together they make NX of pure street commuter type. No rear hugger, short front fender, therefore a 100 yards down to a gravel and the bike and the rider are looking like they have finished at Paris -Dakar. Noodles instead of front suspension.
    It is another Versys, modern, fun to ride down a street, nice to look at, but otherwise pretty useless in its stock form. The whole impression after a test ride was I rode a cheap toy for real money.
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  6. Garp

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    It's a two wheeled RAV-4, not a Land Cruiser. It's mainly about the appearance, but it has some concessions to unpaved roads. Accept it for what it is, not what you want it to be, and it's not a bad bike for the price.
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  7. Pecha72

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    Every test report I´ve read says it uses unbelievably little gas. 2.8-3.5 liters per 100 kms seems to be in the ballpark. That gives a theoretical range of 400-500 kms, but in real-life it´s around 350-450 kms. At least over here, where gasoline is ultra-expensive, and it´s price goes even higher every day, I give that a big thumbs up.

    I would NOT mind, though, if it had, say, a 20 L tank like my new DL650 does. That bike´s not thirsty either, so I think with those extra 6 liters, it should beat the NC700X in range.

    Adventure - that is in the rider, not in the bike. Remember, people go round the world on Vespa´s, Goldwings, Harleys, R1´s...............
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  8. amk

    amk Been here awhile

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    There are few who walks, but we are still talking bikes, beasts here, aren't we? Just move the damn thing over to road bikes, where it belongs.
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  9. 670cc

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    Is that a typo or are they really selling 2013s already somewhere in the world? The USA has only had these bike about three weeks and they are ALL 2012s as far as I know.

    Greg
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  10. RobK61

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    ????
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  11. Crilly

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    It belongs here as much as a maltistrada. At least I can ride one. 5'3"
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  12. swiss-happy

    swiss-happy Rubberburner Joe

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    It is just marketing in the USA, I think.
    There are no 2013 models. Many times in the US, they launch new models and predate them to the next year.
    Lots of gas if you ask me.

    Anyway, 2012 models are rumoured to be built in Japan (launch year).
    I have one, and the finish quality speaks for itself.
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  13. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    A question for those wh have one...would it be possible to fit a 21 inch front and a 17 rear on this bike? If so it has a ton of potential for me for commutting and touring (mix of paved and gravel roads). The larger wheels (spoked) would have a couple of benefits for me, one to raise the bike a bit as I am 6'2 and second to enable it to ride gravel roads better.

    :lurk
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  14. swiss-happy

    swiss-happy Rubberburner Joe

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    Hi, I was told anything is possible.
    It is not too difficult to fit the front with 21' if you really want. Just buy the rims which fit.
    This is the opinion of a clueless mechanic guy who happens to own one of these little wonders.
    :D
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  15. Deadly99

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    I was more curious about clearance when the forks are compressed. The rear fender looks wide and high enough.
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  16. Jud

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    What's disappointing to me is that this bike shoulda come with a 19 inch front. Had it had another inch or so of travel on both ends along with a 19inch front this bike would have been a home run for my wife. Basically a cheaper version of BMW's GS650 or a modern version of her Ascot VT500. Seriously,,,,, just how much "handling" does a bike like this need and honestly,,,, my DL handles well enough considering it's use with a 19 inch wheel. It's not like this is a CBR???????:huh



    The good thing is that this bike is very cheap to buy new which means real cheap used and even cheaper when a used one gets some patina and miles. I think it'll make my wife a great ride in a couple of years and then maybe the internet will be filled to the brim with folks that have found that "this bike's 19 inch wheel is a great match-up" and "this bike's rear shock is a easy, cheap swap and it's gain ya an inch of travel and better damping adjustment".:deal:1drink:lol3
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  17. Ham

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    Sowe finally got one here in Bozeman but they don't have the insurance that allows you to test ride so I guess I will have to wait to go to Spokane and hope they have one.

    Meanwhile this one say NC700 on the side, no X. Is there a difference?
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  18. paprides

    paprides Been here awhile

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    Not ridden it.
    Yet.
    I suspect much will be made of its potential as a versatile motorcycle, but until there are hordes of them on the roads, who knows?
    On the other hand, it may just spawn another legion of rider's whom are as uh, enthusiastic as KLR rider's are alleged to be parsimonious.:D
    Real world fuel economy being touted in the 60+ MPG, handlebars made from tubing, decent seating position. Helen Two Wheels could likely be commissioned to sew up a tote bag that fits the 21 litre storage area and I wouldn't need a tail bag. In Canada, for about 2k more than a KLR, one gets the extra cylinder, fuel injection, factory heated grips and still enough juice from the alternator to run heated clothing and ABS with a standard transmission and about 60% less 'off asphalt,' capabilities. And, and, and.

    Just as well, I can't keep up with my (1/2 my age) nephew on his KTM anyway so more dirt oriented won't be fully utilized by me, but I'll certainly be more comfortable tilting horizons on a two lanes.
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  19. Ham

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    Well amazingly my wife and I got to take one out from Helena's excellent honda dealer. He just bought the dealership and was great to talk to. We did street, highway, and dirt.

    First of all never ride the Honda NC700 and then ride any other engine...it will make them seem way rough and jerky. This engine tranny combo is so smooth. The weight is carried very low down and makes my '01 Dakar seem like it has cement bricks up top. Very easy to ride slow or fast.

    Super super smooth.

    Then I took out a Tenere....seems smaller than it is riding it except in power but I rode it after the Honda so it seemed a bit unrefined. My wife liked its seating position best.

    Now I need to hook up with a Stelvio and then will make up my mind.
    Also need to check out tire possibilities for the Honda as its factory tires are way too street oriented...I will need a good nobby.
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  20. Artivati

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    Good afternoon from the other side of the water
    I had a look at one (including a test ride) almost a fortnight ago.
    In brief:

    It's a 'pretty' bike.
    As it's a Honda it'll be utterly reliable, and there didn't seem to be any misaligned panels etc.
    The engine's low rev limit can take some getting used to: overtaking dilemma... mid-overtaking gearchanges would be the norm'. Don't like that.
    Controls were nice and light; a low saddle height; all very comfortable.
    So, all very good, eh?

    Er, no! :bore

    It felt (sorry Honda) cheaply made, 'brittle' and unsubstantial.
    One minor tumble and all that exposed bodywork plastic would be testing your credit card's limit.
    It'll be a wonderful commuting bike.
    The biking equivalent of falling into a coma.:snore

    I guess that over the last two and a half years I have been thoroughly spoilt with my bike (of which more in a moment), but I had been thinking about a possible replacement for my current steed, so paid the Honda dealership a visit to satisfy my curiousity.

    And my current bike...

    A 2010 Yamaha XT660Z Tenere in black :D:D, with 10,000 miles on the clock and a veteran of an 18 day ride up to Nordkapp in May 2010, 12 days down to southern Spain and Portugal in late May 2011 and 10 days to Geiranger in Norway in three weeks time (mid September 2012).

    I'm not a 'nutcase' rider, far from it... I'm boringly steady.

    But, should I wake up one morning, and coaxed by the wee devil sitting on my right shoulder urging me to be a 'bit of a devil' myself, then the Tenere wouldn't disappoint!

    The Tenere is everything the NC700X isn't... and the Tenere is as reliable and potentially as economical as the Honda.

    Granted, the Honda is great at traffic lights and junctions: I can get both my feet flat down on the tarmac and not have to totter on tip-toe.

    But, that aside... Tenere and I still have a few adventure trips planned before the ally panniers are finally put away and I drop by a Guzzi dealership to ask about a nice V7 Classic. Hmm, some day.

    Thank you dear reader/viewer if you've made it down this far with me!
    :rofl
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