New Honda NC700X Anyone ride one of these yet???

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by JoeWannaB, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. AdvSplash

    AdvSplash Find the world

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    I ride an NCX, I picked a brand new one up on the 8th June 2012 and to date done just under 8,000 miles on the machine.

    It's comfortable, meaningful and has a load of aggression. On road, mild off road it'll get you there in one piece, no different to the wee strom in the earlier post. I could say Suzuki's a known for rusting and 'cheaply' made as so I am told so that may fall to pieces ones it hits the dirt? I can't comment because I haven't ridden one. Same goes for the posted saying the NCX will fall to bits.

    The bike soaks up the roads, takes it in its stride and continues to perform.

    It's a great all rounder, probably only one of a few I could think of that actually fulfills quite a few purposes.
    I wouldn't buy another because I want a true all rounder next time but that doesn't mean anything is wrong with it, I'll probably have it for a little while longer!
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  2. Pecha72

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    You think a WeeStrom might fall to bits off-road.. but you haven't ridden one.... :lol3

    I can tell you it's not a real off-road bike. It's more of a streetbike, but it is better off-road than a regular streetbike. Also has some advantages on very bad roads (that's what most RTW-riders do, they don't do real off-road much though there may be exceptions..)

    The NC700X is still a step further towards the paved roads. But fully capable of going RTW I'm sure. And it seems to be the benchmark in fuel economy.
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  3. AdvSplash

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    Pecha that's where you are wrong, I never said it might or might not, I said it 'could' (having never ridden one for a long duration) I also stated I'd never ridden one like many other posts here sounds like people actually haven't 'ridden' the NCX, a short test ride really doesn't count to get a good scope on it's abilities or practicalities :)

    I did nearly buy a DL though... just preferred the NCX for my uses.

    I think people have an obsession after watching Charley and Ewan of what an adventure bike should be, it should handle the road of bones, be capable of taking 100's of days worth of equipment the rest goes on the 4x4's ;)

    I think an adventure bike is defined as what needs to require fulfilling, everyone needs and requirements change and differ, are you buying an 'adventure' bike because you plan to go around the world and dress it to do such or are you just riding to work or the shops for that matter?

    There will never be just 'one' adventure bike because it will never cover everyone's needs. That's why I don't understand why people argue about such matters>? ;)
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  4. Pecha72

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    Ok, I´m no native English speaker, as you can probably see.. now that I re-read your post, I get what you meant! Sorry, my mistake.

    Yeah, the NC700X could be a bike, that will surprise many in what it can actually do (me included – I admit I was sceptical, when I first saw it).
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  5. AdvSplash

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    No worries Pecha, sorry after reading my reply, I can assure you I wasn't digging or getting at you, I understand what you mean and agree! :)

    I think, as the NC is a new concept there is a long way to go, years of development and feedback.. I'm hoping it will improve.. then I think there could be potential for it to be an Adventure bike.
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  6. Hawk62cj5

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    Just a tag , I was walking through the honda dealer yesterday and this bike caught my eye . Funny I was telling the dealer that I was looking at a Vstrom for next year and he mentioned the XR 650 and did not even bring up the NC700 setting in the front of the show room . I thought I must have been wrong on what honda had in mind with the design .
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  7. cdbren

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    If I wanted something that costs $14,000 and only got 35-40 mpg I'd just go and buy
    a brand new small Honda automobile. My 1980 Honda that costs $800 gets better
    mileage than that and is fun to ride. It can over take just fine on the highway too at
    400cc's.

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  8. cdbren

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    No, with the rear luggage, you can still open the tank just fine. Same with the side bags. They don't hinder the gas seat opening. Only thing that would hinder it is if you had strapped more gear over that.

    As for being a toy I believe it is a top seller over in Europe and have not heard anything in many reviews calling it a toy. The suspension is not the best but that is the only negative I have heard about it.
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  9. bluesman

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    If it is top seller in Europe (which is not supported by market info available) - why I only saw 2 ever and about 1000 GS1200 and probably 100 LTs and loads and loads sportbikes and even some KTM Advs in my daily riding? Including rush hour etc.?
    This bike is over 500 cc. It makes insurance here equal with 1200 cc bike etc.
    Check BMW sales in 2012. I am not fan of BMW, but must give them credit.
    Yet still none of this comes even close to numbers on AP market sales or even North America sales. Honda, Suzuki and Indian brands.
    Which has nothing to do with how good or bad particular bike is overall.
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  10. turbodieseli4i6

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    I have went 258 miles (415 km) on 3.42 gallons US at 75.5 mpg. If I would have ran the tank dry, I could have hit the 280 mile(450 km) mark on one tank.
    One magazine reported 47 mpg at 85 mph. Now if your intentions are riding 85 mph (136 kph) for the entire tank. Your right.
    I have taken my NCX down 30 miles of rough gravel/dirt roads, on a mini adventure and it handled it pretty good. The shocks do need sorted out and a bash plate is on the short list.
    But the little bike fared very well for a street bike. I wasn't filthy either.
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  11. summerman

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    I think it would be fine. I like the looks of it. I suspect it is the modern version of the 750 nighthawk.
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  12. jcbrandon

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    I got to spend a week with the Honda NC700X recently. Put several hundred miles on it, including one long day of more than 370 miles.

    I like the bike a lot. I ride a 2005 KLR650 and have been wanting something that is more comfortable and has better performance on the street, especially on mountain roads. Was thinking about getting a used Triumph Tiger 800XC. After the time on the NC700X, I'm more likely to get the Honda for the pavement and keep my KLR for real dual-sport kind of stuff.

    The Honda is comfortable, looks to be well-built, very affordable, and really fun to ride. With the power down low in the rev range, and me being familiar with the KLR, riding the NC700X was an easy transition. I rode with some guys who have a lot of experience on bigger bikes with a lot more horsepower. On the NC700X they frequently bumped into the rev limiter at 6400 rpm. That only happened to me once. The sweet spot on the Honda seemed to be in the 4,000 to 5,000 rpm range. But with the torque curve fairly flat and coming on very low you can stay below 3,500 rpm and still get around just fine. If you do that you can expect to get more than 70 miles to the gallon (US) of fuel. That will give you a usable range of at least 250 miles on a tank of gas.

    The NC700X weighs about 50 pounds more than my KLR. The DCT version is 80 pounds heavier than the KLR. But both feel lighter and more maneuverable than the Kawasaki. It feels like the weight is down between your ankles, rather than up above your knees.

    The integrated storage is a great feature. You'll get used to it very quickly and then miss it when you get back on another bike. Honda offers a 12-volt power outlet that mounts inside the storage compartment so you can charge your phone and camera while you ride and they are protected from the weather. It would be trivial to add some USB ports in there as well. Having secure and hidden storage for your helmet when you stop for lunch is a really nice benefit.

    I was lucky enough to ride both the manual transmission and the DCT version. Both are nice. I like the DCT a lot. That engine and transmission combination is a very sweet set up. It's really fun on twisty canyon roads. It let me shift gears in milliseconds which means I could give more mental energy to my riding technique, rather than the mechanics of operating the motorcycle. Here in the US the DCT version of the bike costs $2,000 more than the manual transmission version. That could be an issue for some buyers who are on a very tight budget. For $2,000 you could buy some really nice riding gear, or luggage and a camping setup, or a lot of fuel.

    For what I would spend on that used Triumph 800XC I could buy the Honda with the DCT transmission, put some money into improving my KLR650, and still have some cash left over. I won't have a 90-horsepower motorcycle. But I will have two bikes that each do what I want them to do pretty darn well.
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  13. DirtDad

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    Thanks for sharing. I am searching for a more street oriented motorcycle. I am narrowing it down to four right now. :lol3

    I got to sit on a Honda N700X, and if felt really good. Very light! So, I am thinking V-Strom 650, then to really make it confusing KTM 990SMT, or 990 Adventure. The one problem is I would like to take my wife on some longer rides,
    than we do on the KLR. She sat on the Honda and hated the seat. She likes the Adventure, and V-Strom seats.
    I would like to get something that is more street oriented, because I have never owned a motorcycle with a "17 front wheel. I really like the Honda. Very practical, 990 SMT, not so practical. :D May have to see the shrink.

    I think there could be some aftermarket seat in the new future for the Honda. That would make a huge difference for
    my wife.
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  14. Baron650

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    Thanks for sharing your experience J. I was thinking that Thumper guys wouldn't miss the revs as much.
    You're right in saying that for the same money (or less!) you could have 2 bikes. The problem with that is that if you're like me you can only ride one at a time. So you ride the one that's smooth and comfortable, get to the gnarly roads where you'd rather be on the other one, then ride them on the "A-bike" anyway! At least you'll be able to buy an air-pump with your upgrade budget, air down for off-pavement sections, back up for asphalt.

    The other option is a false choice anyway, a used 800XC? What's that? I've never seen one.
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    I'm optimistic on the used Triumph. Naive; but optimistic.

    I'm also fortunate to have zillions of miles of great roads right out the end of my driveway. Both kinds, paved and dirt. If I had to ride any significant distance to get to good dirt the equation would change a lot. I would move to a better place.
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    JCBrandon,

    Thanks so much for taking the time to post that up. That is exactly the info I was hoping for when I started this thread. I think that at the price range of the NCX, people are going to start getting creative to turn that platform into a true adventure bike. It's only been in this country for what? 6 months at best? If Honda will continue the line, I bet it could become a real competitor to the KLR as a low cost adventure platform with a huge aftermarket. I'm thinking really hard about getting myself one. Only problem is I've never bought a new motorcycle in my life. My newest bike in the stable right now is a '90. I don't want to wait that long on this one so I might have to break my own rule. :lol3 Thanks again for sharing.
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  17. jcbrandon

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    Glad I could offer something of value. And thank you for asking the questions.

    The connection between the KLR650 and the NC700X is intriguing. I know lots of riders rarely take their KLRs off the pavement. Those folks would probably be a good match for the NC700X in its current form. We've seen KLRs done up as supermoto bikes. Would be very interesting to see this approach on the Honda.

    The NC700X is much more of a street bike than the KLR650. I'll be watching for the first reports from guys who have put on knobby tires and gone out on the dirt. The main similarities I see between the two bikes are affordability, low-end torque, and broad practicality.

    If Honda were to produce a knobbies-and-bashplate version of the NC700X it might be a serious competitor to the KLR650. But that bike paid for its development costs many years ago. Kawasaki could probably drop the price by 30 percent and still make a decent profit on it.
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  18. Bugz

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    Honda actually is extending the NC line. Hopefully they will annoucne their new NC platform model @intermot, Germany next week. I'll be there so picture will follow if it shows up!

    http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/09/...-larger-new-concept-models-for-north-america/
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  20. Greg Wildwood

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    I have read several actual riders of the NC 700 refer to it as a great beginners bike.I am wondering what this means. I currently have a Harley Road King Classic and a Honda VTX 1300. I was considering trading the Honda on the NC because I wanted to ride some dirt or unimproved roads, but no real dirt riding. BTW, I have been riding rode bikes for over 30 years. I would appreciate comments.

    Best