New Kawasaki Versys 1000 in 2012

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by Shouk, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. pebble35

    pebble35 Long timer

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    Got out to play on it again last night but found it a bit chilly - needs heated grips and handguards !

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    If the snow that is forecast for tonight does not arrive I will be out again tomorrow - more photos and thoughts to follow :evil:evil:evil
  2. aquadog

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    Cycle World did a First Ride Impression and found that the fork started to lose feedback about when the pegs started scraping. Said it was good for 80% of riding and then got vague due to the soft and long travel. Also it dives a bit under hard braking, same reason - strong brakes, long travel fork.

    Guess that proves a) you can't have it both ways, b) you can probably play with it by changing oil or? and c) this is a bike that's going to confuse people as it tries to cross a lot of boundaries. How many adventure/tour bikes are they going to run out that hard? The knobby tires wouldn't allow that behaviour on some. Hope that versatility in the market doesn't harm sales.
  3. PizzaHog

    PizzaHog Thought Criminal

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    I'm just starting to look into the Versys, and it is apparently available in the Peoples Republic of California.
  4. wheatwhacker

    wheatwhacker It's raining here

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    That's the 650cc version.
    I wonder if we will have the same arguments as the V v's the wee like they do on the Vstrom forums.
  5. tremor38

    tremor38 Long timer

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    Sure! A raised fender, longer lines and re-lacing of a 19" wheel onto the stock hub shouldn't be a problem.

    Look up 'Woody's Wheel Works and use the "contact us" link. You'll find the guy is very receptive to most any request.

    Standard disclamer: I have no affiliation with the above business. They just impress the heck out of me. Link is below.

    http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/
  6. sasrocks

    sasrocks Been here awhile

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    didn't read the 21 pages, so dont know if this is a repeat

    but I saw this and being a Yamaha guy, immediately thought about the FX6R engine in a Tiger XC like chassis. Clearly the little Tenere is a low budget effort and not what is needed to compete.

    Take the 03-05 r6 supersport engine with ss valves, one of the sweetest 600 mills ever made - detune it for even more insane reliability and torque (which is what they did for the FZ6R. You get a 85hp 600. Wrap around it a Tiger knock off chassis with real suspenders, you can get 12K for it Yamaha with no R&D engine investment.

    Not sure about the width compared to the triple, cant be more than a couple inches wider (hopefuly).

    Yamaha, do this!!!!!! You would be leading the Jap pack into this growing middleweight ADV market.
  7. Gregster

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    Hey just a minute there, this is a Kawasaki discussion.
  8. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    The 04-09 FZ6 had a retuned r6 motor.

    The US-market FZ6R is just a faired version of the heavy, steel framed XJ600 Diversion that was sold in Europe for ages before coming here. Go to the Yamaha UK site and see it listed as 'XJ600 Diversion F'.

    Anyway, do not want. A liter four works because they make reasonable torque. A 600 four, not so much. By the time you retune it you could have just used a parallel twin and saved weight.
  9. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    It's in a way replacement for the old XJ600, yes, but has nothing in common
    with it, and a lot with the FZ6/Fazer. It's the same engine, retuned once
    again.

    Actually, even the 78hp engine was available in the FZ6S Fazer at one
    point before the XJ6/FZ6R/Diversion F was introduced.
  10. sasrocks

    sasrocks Been here awhile

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    Incorrect - it is the R6 platform, same as the FZ6.

    Anyway, good point about the weight. It can't be much if any heavier than the 675 based 800XC mill. Anyway the idea was how can a Jap maker come into the ADV market with minimal investment. This was an idea I had for Yamaha to take an existing engine and do it. Or they could use the FZ8 motor but it would be heavier still.

    Anything but a parallel twin - the most soulless engine configuration I can imagine.
  11. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    XJ series uses completely different chassis than the FZ6 or the YZF-R6. Some of the very basic engine architecture may be shared, but that is it.

    http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/products/motorcycles/index.aspx


    Something went horribly wrong in the tuning of the Versys 650 motor. The Ninja 650R that I put 25k miles on was great fun - the different cams and missing 10hp of the Versys have ensured that, having ridden one, I will never buy one.
  12. Zammy

    Zammy Been here awhile

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    :deal you guys check the weight on the 1000 . WHY on earth would you choose less bike than a Versys 1000 ???:huh
  13. ag_streak

    ag_streak Tiene Ruta Cuarenta?

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    And this would be heavier still, but I still want one! :freaky

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/34068258@N02/6902796377/" title="EnduroFZ1 by ag_streak, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6902796377_51d6009b7e_b.jpg" width="799" height="491" alt="EnduroFZ1"></a>
  14. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Ok, that FZ1 is :lol3:lol3 .. but made me think if a Versys 1000 would look
    good in a sort of KTM 950-990SM type mini fairings.. like a.. SMT but not..
    :huh
  15. Kawidad

    Kawidad Long timer

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    All this Yamaha talk is :ban


    :lol2
  16. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Only the fugly kind! :deal
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  18. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Those TKC would look absolutely <strike>awesome</strike> ridiculous on my FZ6. :lol3
  19. eakins

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    i'm betting we'll be seeing some ADV'd standard and sport bikes in the future with that 120-17" being available.
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