New Long Range LED Aux Lights

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Off Road Ryder, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. Off Road Ryder

    Off Road Ryder Long timer

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    Thanks for the thoughts. I appreciate your input!
    We are starting to work on a new site that should allow us to provide a bit more info and hopefully get our message across a bit better.

    I am very aware of the fact that consumers are puzzled with info on lights. There is a ton of BS in the lighting industry today.
    We are probably the only company telling riders that Lumens dont mean squat. Its all marketing BS. Not only do most companies outrageously inflate the lumen #s but what does lumens that tell you?
    Its worthless information to the consumer.
    What matters is how far and how wide a particular light beam might shine.
    Lux is a true lighting measurement at a specific point.
    Beam patterns will greatly affect lux measurements at a specific point.
    A photometric chart is really required for a true comp. These cost big $
    We have many available, with the new site we hope to make them available to the public.

    The difference between the NXG Prime and Long Range are many.
    They both have the same Thermal management protection and use the same emitter.
    The NXG Prime is a 2" round light, Its a great compact unit,light weight, durable and provides a nice amount of light. Its also dimmable.
    We sell that light to a lot of riders who want conspicuous lights that also preforms well for night riding. Also a lot of dirt bike riders who race 24hr events or trail riders like this product.
    We supply Tesla Electric cars and a few other OEM's with this product.
    The long range will provide light nearly twice the distance of the NXG LED with a bigger and wider beam pattern.
    The difference is all in the optics. Optics will tell a consumer a lot, if they know what they are looking at. Look at the depth and size of the Long Range optic:deal Far deeper than any other LED product available.
    There is no other LED auxiliary light currently made that will outperform the Long Range LED in overall distance.
    They also provide a decent amount of fill.

    What else matters in an LED Light.. Thermal management and build quality set these lights apart from the any other reasonably priced light.
    The saying "You get what you pay for" is never more true than in LED lighting.
    The Long Range lights are the best value available in LED Aux lighting.


    Sorry for the long winded response
  2. Tetched

    Tetched Local Village idiot

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    Is there a protective cover/screen for the new rounds along the lines of say a Piaa ? If so,do you have a photo ? I don't ever seem to be in front :cry :lol3

    Thanks in Advance,


    Mike
  3. Off Road Ryder

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    Thanks for asking Mike.
    Not yet. but it is in the plans. There will be a clear and amber cover.
    The lenses are polycarbonate and extremely tough.
  4. MadtownMaxx

    MadtownMaxx more ride than post

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    So the Round Long Range Optimus are listed as 3.8" deep x 3.07" high with a 1" mounting depth.... Does this mean the O.D. of the round housing is about 2" and the bracket 'stands off' the 1" mounting depth? Is this light almost identical in size to the NXG in diameter and 'stand off' but 1.5" deeper?

    Thanks,
  5. Off Road Ryder

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    Thanks
    You brought something to my attention. the light dia. is 3.5" on the round, that has been corrected on the site.
    Mounting depth is the min distance that the light needs for clearance to the rear from the mounting post.
    The trunnion bracket slides up and down significantly, about 1 inch, this allows for adjustment in light height. It will lower to very near the 3.5" total installed height.
    You can see the slide provision in the photos above. both round and square lights have these slots in the mount.
    I'm working on getting some line drawings with dims for the round light.
  6. genka

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    I agree that the lumen ratings mean nothing. But can you explain, what makes your lights different? Judging from the pictures they are similar to other Chinese lights. They have basic optics producing a conical beam with no well-defined cut-off. Such lights can have a wide and short beam or very narrow and long. There is no magic- you can't get much more output from a 10W LED than other vendors even with top bin emitters. I would like to find lights which at least attempts to recreate a proper driving pattern- a wide flat beam with sharp cut off on the top, but it looks like they don't exist.
  7. Off Road Ryder

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    Actually they do. We have a elliptical beam on a few of the smaller lights.
    We sell these to OEM's but can also offer those to the public.


    There is a lot that goes into an LED that most don't realize.
    LEDs create a ton of heat, that heat needs to be managed in an effective way. Electronic Thermal management is the best way to accomplish that. The majority of Chinese light have no thermal management, thats the biggest reason they fail.
    Separate Pin PWM keeps the led operating at a constant voltage. This makes the emitter last longer, Chinese lights don't offer that.

    There is no magic- you can't get much more output from a 10W LED than other vendors even with top bin emitters.

    Well, Yes we can:deal. Although its not Magic, LEDs can and do differ greatly with the same emitter.
    Driving voltage and proper circuit controls will make a big difference as well as bin selection of the emitter, most all Chinese lights use sub bin emitters, although they will tell you different.
    Its all in the optics.Bigger,quality reflector, more light output. Its fairly simple.
    This 10 watt light will out shine(distance) any current LED aux light available.
    Wait till you see whats in the pipe:D Good by HID.

    What really separates these lights from Chinese made lights are durability, Build Quality, Warranty, over all performance and Value.
  8. obnoxious2

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    These produce a very nice sharp and wide beam. It's a round beam so you won't get your requested driving light cut off. But I know off zero LED manufacturers/brands that have LED driving light cutoff

    ps- I see that you're up in Baltimore. If you're ever in the Silver Spring area, you're welcome to stop by and see the lights.
  9. genka

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    Thanks for the answer. Sorry if it came out sharp, I didn't mean to offend, I'm genuinely interested in the technology and I currently bought a light which looks almost like your NXG. I have a set of Chinese lights on my bike, after almost 2 years 2 LEDs out 7 in one light died. And the lights are fully sealed, no repair possible. They have a very wide pattern, so they don't reach far, but are very visible from almost any angle. I see that those lights aren't designed for vehicle use, they are good for general illumination. I noticed that most of city buses in Baltimore now have full LED headlights, so technology is there. I can't wait to see your next offerings.
    obnoxious2, thanks for your offer, I'll keep it in mind if I'll be in the area.
  10. WarHorse1961

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    Your originally said they're available in white, but I didn't see that option on your website. Are they, in fact, available in white?

    Thanks.

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  11. Chop Chop

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    Thanks Darryl, round optimus lights arrived. Quite impressed with the quality and ruggedness of the product.

    I'm glad I ordered the round, as I didn't want the blocky look of the square for the size that they are.
  12. Off Road Ryder

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    NOt at all, I hope I didn't come off as defensive.:beer
    I welcome the comparison/Questions in particular to the Chinese made lights.
    Many think that an LED is an LED, Nothing could be farther from the truth. This technology is moving fast, good things are here with more coming.

    People that are buying LEDs based solely on price will loose out in the long run.

    The NXG has been copied by a Chinese company, not near the same quality,or light output, but the case looks almost identical. The troops have been called in.:deal
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    Thank You:clap
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    The marine industry uses the white. They are available , however I don't think we will put them on the site.
    If you want white send me a PM and we will get you set up.
    Thanks
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    What is the difference in throw range between the 10 and 20 degree round Optimus lights?
  16. Off Road Ryder

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    You loose about 150 ft of total distance with the 20 degree. the far tree is approx 375 ft from the Camera

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    We can install elliptical beam patterns in any of the penatrator light bars.
    I just never think of that due to my personal lighting needs.
    Round beams work better off road.
  18. doc dogg

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    This thread looks to be the most comprehensive one I've seen on LED lights so far, really goes a long way to instilling confidence in the product.

    I'm in the market for some lights for my R1200C and after reading this thread I might have to investigate these ones further :)
  19. Off Road Ryder

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    Thanks Doc. I have little room or tolerance for BS.
    Its what has set us apart from other vendors in the dirt bike world and hopefully does the same here.
    I might not sell as many units due to it, but I would rather be straight up than sell someone something they would regret later.
  20. AndyM

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    These were my thoughts also. Then after spending a half hour on the phone with them yesterday I was even more convinced. Now I'm just waiting on the big brown truck to deliver later this week.