New Lynx Fairing for the KTM 690 from Britannia Composites

Discussion in 'Vendors' started by Ian B, Jan 12, 2011.

  1. Ontario GS

    Ontario GS Budding Adv. Traveler

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    I have a 2010 690 Enduro R and we are in the process of installing the Lynx Fairing. We are at the point of plugging back in the display console connections and we appear to have an extra male connection coming out of the console that we can't locate the female end. We feel like a pair of idiots (no comment necessary) and wonder if anybody can shed some light on this mystery connection?

    In the picture below, it's the 4th connector.


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  2. Ontario GS

    Ontario GS Budding Adv. Traveler

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    Solved in the Wunderfest thread.
  3. Hoots

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    Yellow Pig - how is the Lynx fairing working out?

    Any further observations re' wind protection versus ability to work around it offroad ... ?

    Has anyone tried this fairing and a rally-type alternative (eg RR Evo-2) - if so, any comparisons ... ?

    I want to get one or the other, and am currently leaning toward the BC Lynx option - cost, and the fact that I'm not doing rallies - but have never tried either ...

    Opinions appreciated ... :nod
  4. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    So far so good. I did a 530 mile off-road loop yesterday and the fairing works very well.

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    I have played w/ different heights on the adjustable windscreen and have found the best hight is all the way down. This provides the cleanest air flow. Keeping air pressure off the chest, w/ smooth air hitting me in the chin guard.

    The one thing I have noticed is that the angle of the dash is a bit too steep for the 690 to mount the gps and the dash flat. To properly see the LCD of the odo and the GPS I had to mount a 1cm spacer on the lower part of the ODO and GPS so they were tilted up a bit more for clearer viewing while seated.

    For offroad use the Lynx is very unobtrusive. It mounts far enough forward that even when hopping logs or climbing steep embankments the screen does not hit your chest .

    Not as impressed by the dual HID light output as others. Not sure if it's because I'm used to a dual Baja Designs squadron set up I have on my KTM 530 or if the color temperature of the HID's Ian provides is a bit cold. I prefer a warmer temperature. (What HID temperature do you send out w/ the kits Ian?). I still need to fine tune the aiming of the lights, which is not easy since it cannot be done w/ the fairing on the bike.


    The other issue w/ the lights is that there is a lot of light bleed off into the fairing at night. You get lots of light leaking around the edges between the fairing and the dash, and some light leaking onto the wind screen through the two vertical windscreen adjustment slots. Very annoying/distracting when driving at night. I remember seeing a post where someone was trying to seal the light units off w/ some foam to prevent this issue. Might have to try it myself.


    I'm gonna see if I can mount a BD Squadron in place of the Hellas to get better lights output and cut down on weight.

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    I really wanted to get the full RR fairing, but could not justify the cost and since it's all made of relatively thin fiberglass did not want to wreck it the first time I dropped the bike.
  5. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Hey Ian:

    What temperature HID bulb do you send out w/ the kits?
  6. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    Got a Datel Digital volt meter installed so I could keep an eye on the battery and the regulator/rectifier (known issue).

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  7. Ian B

    Ian B Fairing Manufacturer

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    4300k on the lights. Your comments on the lights is valued feedback. When I first did the Lynx, everybody was 'blown away' with the lights, because they only had the OEM to compare with. There's no doubt there are some better ( albeit more expensive) options out there now and I'm really looking at LED as an alternative. However, there seem to be very few ( if any ?) DOT/EU approved LED's out there and DOT/EU approved lights seems to be a big issue with many customers around the world. Any suggestions on lighting are really welcome !

    Cheers

    Ian
  8. Bike Nomad

    Bike Nomad Been here awhile

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    I've no personal experience with them, but Walter Colebatch, famous for his trans Eur-Asian ride reports, and meticulously thought out custom bike adventurizations http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524638


    swears by Bi-Xenon projectors. Either the originals used in Infiniti FX's or aftermarket copies. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=122

    is one example.

    The biggest problem with them stems from the fact they are designed for on-road automotive applications. The challenge is in sealing them adequately to prevent moisture and dust from getting into the projector.

    You might want to order a set and play around with them. Colebatch figures there is no better ADV bike lighting solution on the market.
  9. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    The other issue w/ proper HID projectors is the sharp cut off of the low beam. If you are leaned over in a corner you have no light where you are going.

    If I had to be legal I would do the HID projector low beam w/ a modified cut off plate and a squadron LED for high beam.
  10. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    I ditto Bike Nomads suggestion... The FX-R Bi Xenon projector is probably the best DOT pattern out there. DOT legal is not to be scoffed at... 3000 OTF lumens in a 35 watt FX-R absolutely blows away a 6,000 lumens in say a dual squadron set up... not even close. Twin squadrons will put out more light but you will not see near as well on or off road. Squadrons are deceptively dangerous for high speed riding... they wow you with how bright they are at the expense of your ability to see.
    FX-R are not only legal they are superior... by far... for seeing! Not for impressing you with how bright they are and that is a huge difference.

    BUT the FX-R aren't near tough as a BD squadron. They need to be sealed, waterproofed. Bending the law would be using 50 watt bulbs/ballasts in the FX-7; not DOT legal any more but much more tolerable to oncoming traffic than a squadron.

    Since the Lynx has two lights, I think the best set up would be one low beam projector and one Bi Xenon projector.
    The guy/company that comes up with how to make something like the FXR durable, easily adjustable and mount it well on a dirtbike will be the bomb! :)
  11. rickypanecatyl

    rickypanecatyl SE Asia adventure tours

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    As the BMW system is probably kind of expensive I think that is best addressed by auxilary light aimed at precisly those points. Mounted low they don't bother oncoming drivers. Off road when possible a helmet light fills that gap best.
  12. firedevildog

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    I mounted my Lynx to my 13 KTM 690 about 6 month ago I have tried everything i know to stop rattling around 4000 RPM tight everything felt padding here and there nothing stops it only at 4000 -4200 RPM then stops. Sounds like it is the whole mounting plate driving me crazy. Anyone else have this problem or ideas it fix it
  13. Motomochila

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    Holy sheet, so there is somebody else who noticed that "little" vibration and noise? I've tried vinyl gaskets between all surfaces but still get the rattle. So....to alleviate it, I sing between 4000 and 5500 RPM. My shitty voice is only a bit easier to tolerate though. At least I can drown out the friggin rattle.
    It gives more room on the road too, since now my friends ride further away since my singing is so bad.
  14. Ian B

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    OK, so this has come up before and specifically on 690's ! It's 90% that the dashboard is touching the inside of the fairing right on the outside of the 'wings'. You'll see if this is the case where the inside of the fairing is marked by the dash touching it.

    The dash should not touch the fairing at any point, other than where it bolts to the fairing at the top. The solution is to remove the fairing and file/grind/dremel the dash away where it touches the inside of the fairing. Leave yourself at least an 1/8th" gap between the two surfaces.

    Adding different types of rubber/foam to the two surfaces does not work satisfactorily, the two surfaces need to be clear of each other.

    I'm sorry that the dashboards didn't come with the correct clearance, but those reading will be pleased to hear that the issue got solved on the new Lynx this year.

    Cheers Ian
  15. firedevildog

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    Thanks i will do that today let u know how it turns out
  16. resqdoc

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    Ian, any further thoughts or action toward LEDs with your fairing. I'm interested but would prefer to go that route.
  17. Ian B

    Ian B Fairing Manufacturer

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    Yes, quite a lot learnt on the subject of HID vs LED. Firstly, we haven't found an LED unit that is as powerful as the HID unit we use, except the Baja Designs Squadron, which is fabulous as a High beam, but is costly. The low beam issue is even more pronounced, because none of the LED's seem to be able to replicate the width of light and sharp horizontal cut off that we get from a Projector HID lamp. Most of our testing was done to establish a new lighting format for our new Voodoo fairing for the 950/990 and this was our favourite combo, with a 50w Hella HID projector lamp low beam, paired with a Squadron LED Hi and this combo is fabulous.[​IMG]
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    So, the intention was to perhaps use this lighting combo in the Lynx and we have fitted the Squadron one for testing and so far all is well. However, here's the problem. HID's have recently dropped in price dramatically and we have passed this saving on, so that twin HID's are now $130, instead of $210. This means that a Squadron equipped Lynx would be nearly $200 more than a twin HID Lynx and that a lot of money, even if it is better ! We therefore tried a cheaper, lower power LED in the High beam, but there are some problems with this, because they are so heavy, we are not sure the existing Lynx headlight frame will handle the extra weight. Add to this, the fact that the light is not as good as the HID and we're wondering why we are doing this !

    Anyway, here's our position currently. We will shortly have experience of how the new lighting combo works in the Voodoo fairing and I think we will probably design a new Lynx type fairing in the fall, with a similar 'stacked' headlight combo that suits the LED mounting better. I'm also hoping that by then there will be more LED options out there for us to try as the industry is moving so fast.

    So, for the time being the Lynx will be a twin HID unit, BUT, if you wanted to go for it, we can fit a Squadron LED into the Hi beam and that really does chuck out some light ! Here is a pic of a Lynx on a 950 SE with the squadron on the left as you look at it. Ignore the two auxillary lights each side of the fairing, because they are irrelevent once the Squadron is turned on, but the guy already had them and it does look cool !
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    Cheers Ian
  18. palmstatecrawler

    palmstatecrawler Been here awhile

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    A stacked light fairing for the 690 is what I am looking for. This is an aesthetic preference and the side x side lights have kept me from purchasing the fairing. I have heard a lot of good things about you product and I will be watching to see what you guys end up doing.
  19. Lon

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    This fairing looks fantastic!

    Riding my new-to-me 690E last night, I learned that the headlamp is little more than an overpowered candle in a poor reflector.

    Some questions:
    • I'm wicked short. 5'5". So, any short riders with one - how's visibility? Wind protection? Any buffeting?
    • Is there perhaps a custom option for the full DOT 90mm Xenon low-beam (not bi-xenon) from Hella - part # 008194041 ? It looks about $280 more expensive than the 90mm Halogen low-beam - is it a drop-in replacement?

    Edit: I suppose I should just email Britannia Composites...
  20. Lon

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    Based on emails, it sounds like the specific Hella part # described above may not be worthwhile. Good to know (and this was probably covered previously).