New Owners - Stupid Questions Thread

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by HighFive, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

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    Don't get that stuff from BMW, there are much better aftermarket items.

    IMO, Mod or Adv Spec bash plate, SW-Motech or Adv Spec crash bars.
  2. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    Yea, I didn't buy any of the BMW stuff, I got swmotech bars, and barkbusters through my dealer for a good price.
  3. nat_han

    nat_han 2 Wheelers By Choice.. =]

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    anyone has any opinion on the ROX risers for the F800GS?


    will it cause the handlebar to 'lose control' twisting front and back whilst riding due to a lack of 'friction'?


    worried about the contact points at the bar clamp area... my mechanic is quite against this product... saying it increases riding risk...

    thanks!
  4. machinebuilder

    machinebuilder Long timer

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    I've been using them for about a year, never had them slip. there is a thread about them on an ABS equiped bike and a shorter model for it.

    I don't have ABS and have the 30mm's. be carefull with the cable and hose routing so it doesn't start to bind at steering lock.
  5. nat_han

    nat_han 2 Wheelers By Choice.. =]

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    have been to that thread to read up before buying one...

    i've the 1 3/4" rise x 1 1/8" Stem Clamp x 1 1/8" Handlebar version...

    already shifted my brake perch inner a couple of mm to the left due to the fitting of the Kaoko cruise control, and i also have fitted the wunderlich 20mm bar risers few years back...

    my 800gs comes with ABS, hence, wondering if by installing this set of risers, i'll have to

    1) change to a longer brake hose due to the maximum shifted position of the brake perch that is giving the most slack available already(it narrowly touches the mounting clam of my OEM hand guard!)... or just trying to reverse the brake line position(like what immate "drrags" has done)... but am worried about this procedure- the bleeding of the brake fluids, possible complications in doing this...

    2) remove my exisiting 20mm wunderlich risers i currently have on the bike to compensate for brake/throttle cable slackness.. thereby enabling me to use the ROX...

    hmmm...
  6. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    to be on the safe side...get ride of the 20mm risers, should not need them with the ROX...and get a longer brake cable....
  7. nat_han

    nat_han 2 Wheelers By Choice.. =]

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    hey soph9!

    thanks for the input of thoughts... =)

    most prob will head in this direction...
    my friend actually mentioned to me that another way is to change the handle bar to those higher bend ones... WRP/TAG/etc...
    but since i've already gotten the ROX... kinda makes no sense to sell and buy all over again.

    is the bleeding of the brake hose easy? conventional method? just bleed from the point of removal or do i have to bleed through the whole system after changing just the 1st hose at the handlebar area?
  8. HighFive

    HighFive Never Tap-Out

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    Bleeding the brakes is not hard, just takes time....be patient and approach it methodically. It is always wise to bleed the "whole system" when you change a hose. Air could get trapped anywhere (above or below your junction. So, I'd recommend you gravity bleed downward to fill the new line. Then, bleed upward (pumping oil in from the bottom bleeder at the caliper....all the way to the top.

    I flush mine both directions several times, until I see no more air bubbles at all anywhere. Then, go ride it a while. Bleed it again. Ride....bleed it again. Sometimes this is what it takes, unless you have one of those fancy high-dollar vacuum bleeding machines....what I've never had the chance to try out.

    HF :thumbup

    p.s. DOT 4 on the F800.

    p.s.s. Special Note: there is a tiny bleeder valve up on the brake lever perch which allows you to bleed the air form the piston pump chamber. This is wonderful addition. I didn't notice it at first, and had a hard time regaining my brake pressure after changing a line. After discovering this little outlet, and bleeding up thru it as well, VOILA, brake pressure returned.
  9. kerji

    kerji n00bie!

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    Hi guys,

    I am right down at Singapore, (a tiny dot of an island at the bottom of Malaysia)
    Just got my brand new F8GS yesterday and I didnt get to read any user manual so i was wondering is there a need for a running-in like the other bikes?

    if a running-in's required, just wanted to see how you guys run in your GS...
  10. Wildman

    Wildman In my castle

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    I'll get this.

    BMW advise to keep it below 5,000 rpm for the first 600 miles and to vary your riding i.e. don't do 600 miles of highway, mix it up a bit.

    There was a debate a while back about whether the "below 5,000 rpm" was necessary as some consider it's better to ride it like a hooligan from day one. You choose.

    Welcome to the site and enjoy your F800GS.
  11. kerji

    kerji n00bie!

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    thanks Wildman, i tink i better stick to the 5000rpm theory. its not too late to ride like a hooligan after that....lol
  12. nat_han

    nat_han 2 Wheelers By Choice.. =]

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    THANKS HighFive!

    Will approach it with care...

    On a separate note, have you read the Haynes Manual?
    Regarding the clutch free-play measurement figure, the BMW service diagram quotes a free-play of 3mm (the amt, that the clutch cable slackness should have)... but the Haynes mentions 1mm.

    i only have the Haynes manual with me. but i remember seeing a thread here in this forum with a picture saying otherwise...

    the other issue is that Haynes mentioned that BMW does not have replacement brake pump kits for the front of the 800/650GS. BMW only has spare parts for the REAR pump kit... hmmm...
    this is funny cuz almost every other Japanese bike has these in stock...
    Haynes says to replace the whole brake pump unit if spoilt. :eek1
  13. zombieKILLER

    zombieKILLER Adventurer

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    This might sound stupid. :D
    Im planning to get a new bike next year. I currently have a harley & drz400 sm. Just got back from a 2000 km roundtrip with the harley. It was alot of fun. But I didnt have any saddle bags & had to use a backpack w/c really was inconvenient. We had a back up vehicle until the last 500km w/c I had to put on the backpack. But I dont wanna use my harley for that anymore. Also had problems with my airfilter stalling the motor in heavy rain w/c we encountered. I have a screaming eagle heavy breather (open type cone filter).
    We're planning to do it again next year.
    Its gonna be around 3000-4000 km roundtrip. All asphalt. No offroad. We're gonna have a backup vehicle all the way & back to carry our things.
    I know that the BMW GS800 would be the right bike for that trip but how about just around town or short rides? Im asking this is because im just gonna use it once a year for long distance riding & the rest gonna be short rides & around town. Im also considering the 2011 ducati monster 796. How fast is the GS800?
  14. AlanI

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    The original specification was for 1mm of play which I believe the Haynes manual is using. However, the '10 and '11 model handbook states 3mm whilst a recent BMW technical bulletin that someone here mentioned revises this to 5mm. So take your pick I guess. :rofl
  15. digdesign

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    If you plan to ride only asphalt and around town consider getting a 1200GS. You'll be much more comfortable on such a long haul. I don't know how you can even consider the 796 for touring.
  16. HighFive

    HighFive Never Tap-Out

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    Or a even just a cheap used Vstrom if you're not going to get offroad into the dirt. They are great, comfortable commuters....that will eat up the road miles, for a fraction of the cost.

    BUT, if you want agile, mobile, & hostile....wrapped into one go-anywhere package, then you probably need an F800. :evil

    HF :thumbup
  17. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    I am with Chi....798 whether it is the 800GS or our 650GS....would you consider going from Vancouver to NY, to Maine and back touring? It was great fun and although not a luxury touring bike...it toured just fine:lol3
  18. AlanI

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    I will agree with this aspect of your post contrary to ChiTown and Soph9. I would imagine that the number of seat and screen swops that people have experimented with to make the 1200GS comfortable for long mainly asphalt tours pales into insignificance when compared to the 650/800GS's. The 1200GS is, in my opinion, far better equipped straight from the starting gate for long distance asphalt hauls. If only the darn thing wasn't so heavy.

    That's not to say that the 650/800GS's aren't up to the job but I don't believe that is what digdesign was meaning to say.
  19. grndzr0

    grndzr0 its Ground Zero

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    I bought mine the beginning of April, put 3000 miles on it the first week i had it, and another thousand since then, could not be happier!!!:clap:clap:clap

    Is it the best bike ever for touring... No
    Is it better than the 1200 for touring... No
    But it is alot cheaper than the 1200, and funner IMHO
  20. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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