New Owners - Stupid Questions Thread

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by HighFive, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. moe.ron

    moe.ron Pig. Can. Fly.

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    Just how deep was that water?
  2. Loutre

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    Are you thinking about a wet airfilter? Wouldn't that just shut down the bike?

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    Sometimes I got covered up with water but I don't think it got much higher that that.
  3. duffs

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    Just a random guess, but since the problem only seems to be when the engine is under load, check to see if your air filter is clogged... also possible is a failing oxygen sensor stuck reporting a rich mixture - it might be working sufficiently that it hasn't triggered a warning light... if those items are ok, perhaps contaminated fuel (ie water)? For perspective I had a Suzuki Swift many years ago that exhibited these symptoms once and it ended up being the o2 sensor.

    On my F8 I've gone through water right up to the air intakes and all is well still, although nothing got sucked in.
  4. Loutre

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    Roger that! thanks for that! The tank is full of fuel, only run like 10kms before doing this. hope it isn't some kind of weird sensor or something. hate electronics. Tomorrow I'll begin with the read break even if now I don't think that this is the problem since the wheel is spinning right, but it is the easiest part to remove :lol3. Then I'll try to see what the air filter looks like.
    Maybe after all the clutch isn't working right? hmm wait and see. I'll keep you tuned. and I'm all ears for new suggestions!!
  5. Reaver

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    What's this? PITA Loutre has a question and not a smart ass remark? Is that a tail between your legs or are you glad to see us? :D

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    smart ass remark? Who do you think I am Reaver :lol3? I only like flaming noobs and keeping them in their right place :lol3
    Will check that too with the airfilter, think blowing in it will help (insert joke here)? :wink:
  7. duffs

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  8. ebrabaek

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    Ha ha..... :clap... You two Frenchies......:freaky:freaky:lol3. No warning lights...... bike will not move until 4000 rpm. I want to make sure I understand it correctly. When you try to take off normally, what happens while you feather the clutch, and begins to move ( 1500-2500 rpm) Does the bike then stand still...???? and then after you hammer the throttle to 400 the bike moves...???? Water in oil, perhaps contaminating the oil system. Water should not be able to enter the oil system, but you go deep enough, all bets are off. You have already cleared the drive train by spinning the rear wheel, on the center stand, and that is fine. I beleive if the ecu have taken the motor in limp mode, due to a water intrusion, you would get a light. Does the clutch other why slip...???? Is the front wheel rotating freely...??? If you have paper air filter, it will severely restrict the intake if you sucked in water, but I think you would see other symptoms. If all the above is good, I would have a look at the air filter. You dont want water in the cylinders. :ear:ear
  9. Reaver

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    A damp air filter will cause it to run bad. A SOAKED air filter will get sucked right into the airbox then run normal again, unless it also disintregrates and blocks a cyl or two.

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  10. Loutre

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    Ah Erling the master of Carbonfiber is coming to my rescue! I appreciate :D
    So here we go:


    "When you try to take off normally, what happens while you feather the clutch, and begins to move ( 1500-2500 rpm) Does the bike then stand still...???? and then after you hammer the throttle to 400 the bike moves...????"

    <-- 1500 up to 4000 (I'd say) the bike stands still: Like if you had the clutch engaged, you hear the engine but thats it.

    "then after you hammer the throttle to 4000 the bike moves...????"

    <-- Moves really slowly like if I had my food on the rear brake (thus my suggestion about the pads)

    "Water in oil, perhaps contaminating the oil system. Water should not be able to enter the oil system, but you go deep enough, all bets are off."

    <-- one of the first things I checked during my "cleaning session". oil is at the same level as before the trip (checked it the day before)

    "I beleive if the ecu have taken the motor in limp mode, due to a water intrusion, you would get a light. Does the clutch other why slip...????"

    <-- haven't noticed any light and the clutch feels normal =/

    "Is the front wheel rotating freely...???"

    <-- Yep it does

    "If you have paper air filter, it will severely restrict the intake if you sucked in water, but I think you would see other symptoms."

    <-- I still have the OEM air filter =/ Maybe that's a sign telling me to change them :lol3

    "If all the above is good, I would have a look at the air filter. You dont want water in the cylinders."

    <-- Well I hope this can wait until tomorrow, otherwise I'll have a problem :lol3. It's 1 am here and a "bit dark" outside :lol3


    A big thanks to you too!


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  11. Loutre

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    well maybe this rainy night will dry it out completly and it'll work just fine tomorrow :lol3. Two days before I got into even deeper water and nothing happend. Let's call it bad luck :lol3
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    This is slightly perplexing... what happens if you try to spin the rear wheel with your hand while in neutral on the centre stand? Does it turn freely?

    When you're attempting to move does the engine just bog down and stall? or rev freely like the clutch is slipping?

    The reason I thought it might be load-related is because that could mimic the sensation that the rear wheel is binding up due to the power drop while releasing the clutch a lower revs...
  15. duffs

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    Nice one! Might just take you up on that! :beer
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    I think the most plausible thing right now is the soaked air filter, even though I can't see how it happened. now let's just hope that nothing entered in that engine :eek:). In 2 days I'm heading back to my appartment 700kms away from here, it kinda has to work until then :lol3. In my past experience pushing isn't a solution :deal
  17. duffs

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    Ah ok, so if it goes to 1,500rpm and then jumps to 4,000, doesn't sound like the clutch or brake... obviously the filter is quick/easy to check tomorrow... but now it's starting to sound like either an issue with the throttle cable (binding perhaps?) or the throttle position sensor (although this should trigger a warning lamp)... with the engine switched off, is there any perceptible 'snap' or slack when you turn the throttle from idle to full? At least you have the upper revs so you should be able to get home!
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    Maybe I wasn't clear but I need to push it to 4000rps (turning the throttle) in order to get it moving :lol3. I did hit a rock badly on the right side (hoping for my rims to bend in order to push me to a new "Woody-set", btw magician, you owe me an answer :lol3) which scrapped my bashplate but I didn't check the cable after that. One problem, so many possibilities... Not sure I'm ready for a RTW trip :lol3 or I need you guys 24/7 on my side :evil
  19. duffs

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    Haha at this point, pop to the nearest dealership/mechanic and see what they say! :)
  20. ebrabaek

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    LOL... I was referring to our French Canadian.....:D:D