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Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by GypsyWriter, May 27, 2012.
These gloves made a big difference with the vibes on my GSA.
Seems like a really simple thing to do in your case is to ride a couple/another 1200 and see if you have the same problem. What I learned early on riding GS is that it is very much worth it to figure out before making adjustments to the bike, what you can do about you to improve whatever discomfort you are experiencing. This is a golden oldie by now from Dick Frantz, maybe it can help you make a difference with the numbness: http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2743
My 2009 GS, a great bike otherwise, was a buzzy mother.
I had the same thing with my 2010 GSA but after 12000 miles or so it started to smooth out, I put on grip puppies and the rubberthingies on the pegs, BMW original and then with a Go cruise throttle lock I'm ok.
Still it is buzzy compared to my old 1150 and I was close to getting rid of it'cause of the vibes but now it's acceptable, not as good as I want it to be but ok.
Re Twinmax get Grok's, inmate here, Harmonizer it's very good indeed and then some.
Do complain at the service because for the money you paid you should not be unhappy with your purchase.
Good luck and hopefully it'll smooth out.
I think your right about it smoothing out after some km/miles.
I was talking to a well respected BMW mechanic here in Australia that for the past 43 years has solely restored and serviced BMW's (in particular boxers), and he said the boxers take up to 30,000km to fully run in.
A mate of mine with a 2010 R1200GSA said his got very smooth after 50,000km.
So really I wouldn't be too worried with it being a bit "buzzy" until later on, as long as regular servicing is done.
I have a 2010gs noticed some buzzing around 4200-4500 rpms. optimal cruising speed. bought risers, still had it, bought some foam grips, still had it realized I was squeezing the sh*t out of the handgrips, kinda went away. did a home TB sync..basically gone. still comes in around 4800-5000.
hope this helps
You may face a mechanical issue, but here is another angle. It may not apply to your case but maybe it will help somebody else reading this tread, so I'll put it out there.
When I'm feeling any discomfort in my hands on any bike, I take it as a signal to loosen up my grip with both hands, and practice riding with minimal input to the bars. This is easier done with the clutch side than the throttle, but minimal input, controlling the bike by shifting weight rather that holding & moving the bars. This applies in spades in nasty traffic and windy conditions.
Part of the buzz is due to two different cylinders each producing a slightly different amount of torque. Even if you balance the air really well, when running a lean mixture (with the stock narrowband O2 sensor) each injector is squirting a different amount of fuel, from a few to several percent. That leads to a different power in each cylinder which can lead to buzz.
A way to smooth that buzz out is to do a good tb balance and valve adjustment, and to run a rich enough mixture so that all the oxygen is consumed. Once all the O2 is gone, a little injector imbalance doesn't matter. On the Wideband O2 project when I programmed the mixture into the high 13s:1, the engine smoothed out. This is a benefit or running nearer the Best Power mixture.
I received and installed my Vibranators today on my 2012 R1200GS (with about 950 miles on the clock). I got them because I was bothered by the vibration tendencies of the engine beginning around 4200 rpm.
I can categorically say that the Vibranators completely mask the vibration tendencies in the 4200 to 4600 rpm range. You can still feel the vibration in the foot pegs, but in the handle bars the vibration is comparable to sub-4000 rpm. The standard high speed vibration continues to kick in around 5500-6000 rpms, but that is outside the typical cruising range.
I paid $80 with the ADV discount and find it is worth every penny. Next step is to get a high flow air filter and a Power Commander to improve the fueling effects.
Do the vibranators work with the stock bar end weights and kaoko cruise ?
I've been seriously considering the Vibranators but a lot of people reported the customer service never got back to them, and I wasn't sure if they were out of business. How did you order?
Could you please be more specific about which Vibranators you got for the GS? The website is not that clear.
...after riding several pre-camhead bikes and owning a '12 camhead, I find the camhead has a high frequency buzz that the other oil-heads do not have.
Grip puppies worked for me.
I put a set of Touratech risers and some Beemer Buddies on the grips but ran down my battery before I could take it for a spin. Once I get that situated I'll report what I find.
They come with their own integrated bar end weights that replace the stock ones. The flange appears to be too wide for the stock hand weather guards because the guards just rotate, but I just used a pair of $0.32 rubber O-rings to close the gap and now they fit tickety boo. I don't have a Kaoko throttle lock so I cannot comment on the compatibility.
I found service to be good. I ordered off the website (see link below). I forgot to enter in the "advrider" coupon code for the ADVRider 20% discount, so I entered a second order and sent an e-mail to cancel the first. The first business day after I sent the e-mail I got a response from the owner saying that the order has been cancelled.
The product code you are looking for is 12MM-M06-T02. I don't know if you can find it without knowing the code because it does not seem to be listed in its menu system when I looked for it.
Here's the link:
Does anyone have an opinion about these?
My 2013 GSA buzzes from 3 to 5 k range. Even with gel gloves numbness starts taking place in 15 minutes. Do not notice any vibrations in the foot pegs at all. Does the dealer charge to re sinc the throttle bodies? I have about 1200 miles on it now. Great bike except for vibration and wind buffeting.
Most likely the death grip, I got a kaoko and eventually replaced the worn OEM grips with some Pro-Grips and I now have a loose grip and don't get dead hands after a ride.
Simply get JVB's DVD for your bike.
Jim rarely wears his sorcerer's hat when producing these videos!
You'll learn a lot and begin to rely less on dealer involvment.
Very rewarding for you.
Many of JVB's 'tech pictorials' here:
"talkies" are on the DVD.
Grip puppies from Cal Sport Touring also do the trick. $12 shipped. I've used them for years.