New rules and FEES for beach driving/riding Cape Hatteras NC

Discussion in 'Southeast, The Lair of the Dragon - The Blue Ridge' started by JaxObsessed, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    23,075
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland, it's all Appalachian
  2. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,504
    Location:
    Central NC
    Yep. Been going to the Outer Banks since it had one north/south route back in the late 60s/early 70s. I've probably made my last trip.
    #2
  3. douglasgraham

    douglasgraham This is my car

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2010
    Oddometer:
    310
    Location:
    Virginia's Valley
    Well knew this was coming its just too many people driving on the beach and most of them dont belong behind the wheel of a car let alone driving on the beach. Its a shame really and to tell the truth Im surprized they did not ban it all together. That will be next and Id bet sooner then you would expect.
    #3
  4. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    23,075
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland, it's all Appalachian
    So many people, so willing to let their rights go down the shitter.
    DG,
    Your logic is a bit flawed imo... If "too many people who don't belong behind the wheel of a car" is your criteria for removing rights, then easily half the drivers in the US would not be allowed to drive, or access national parks and other crowded areas.

    Also.. I'm not sure where you get the "too many people" Mostly I drive the beaches off season. There are times when I am in the only vehicle that can be seen for miles. The solitude is the draw. Even in season there are often 100s of yards between 4x4 parked on the beach. It only really packs up in the "hot" fishing areas.
    #4
  5. dirtconnector

    dirtconnector erythematic nucha

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Oddometer:
    773
    Location:
    shed out back, WNC
    [​IMG]

    Hundred of yards between vehicles eh?:huh


    Read the replies in your link. This guy is probably referring to you:



    It's a sad situation

    Submitted by BRAKE4YELLOW on Sun, 01/22/2012 at 10:55 am.
    I've been driving the Hatteras beach for more years than I would like to count and back in the day we locals were extremely careful of where we drove (and that includes now too) especially watchful of wildlife and so-called un-wildlife (humans), but in the last 20 or so years, with the influx of tourists with their big SUV's and their stupid arrogance that "they know everything", the poor wildlife and the locals have to suffer. It's a sad situation!




    Most of locals I know all say something has to be done and welcome this new rule.
    #5
  6. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,504
    Location:
    Central NC
    Picture hanging on the wall behind my PC of the same spot from the last time I was there. Guess it's changed a bit.

    [​IMG]
    #6
  7. FishHunt

    FishHunt slow poking...

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,550
    Location:
    Asheboro, N.C.
    Yes it is bad/sad news but money and tourist have already ruined every damn thing north of Cedar Island. This is just another reason not to venture to that area again.

    <>< Fish
    #7
  8. Bucho

    Bucho Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,376
    Location:
    Maryland
    I worked as a seasonal ranger for the NPS at Cape Cod National Seashore for a couple years during college. They have had a very similar policy of requiring a pass/limiting number of vehicles/watching an educational video for many years.

    When I first visited the Outer Banks I was very suprised that you could just drive onto the beach w/out all that stuff. I know in Cape Cod it is ten times as crowded as the Outer Banks. The restrictive policy is needed. I'm not sure if the Outer Banks "needs" the same policy but as more and more people discover the Outer Banks some sort of policy will be needed to protect the beaches.
    #8
  9. Bucho

    Bucho Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,376
    Location:
    Maryland
    This is a shot from the beach on the northern part of the Outer Banks. Not too many people there in the early morning.


    I'm sure the NPS policy wont allow for motorcycles

    [​IMG]
    #9
  10. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    23,075
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland, it's all Appalachian
    Speaking of reading....I said it packs up in hot fishing areas....Your photo is of the Point, the single "HOTTEST" fishing area... I NEVER go there.

    So if you really want to bust my chops, you will have to read my entire post before you post your argument.
    I don't give a shit what the comments are in the article,,, as well, I don't give a shit what you say.

    Just line right up and smack me, and call me a tourist and a plover/turtle killer.... and you will be speaking to the choir. I am mostly a misanthrope which is precisely why I have enjoyed the OBX for close to 40 years. It's about the solitude you can not find anywhere else (at the beach). Yes, I said 100s of yards up to miles between vehicles, and if you really went there to seek the solitude, you would be able to find it too. This is what I lament potentially loosing. It's not the fees, it's the undisclosed closures.

    Just line right up and kick my ass.... :kat I can take it. I'm not so sure you can.



    Agreed Bucho. I'm really just lamenting the loss of something I have held close to my heart for most of my life.
    #10
  11. Bucho

    Bucho Long timer

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    Oddometer:
    2,376
    Location:
    Maryland

    Don't worry Jax, when the zombie apocolypse hits and wipes out 75% of the people on the East coast I'm sure you will have plenty of solitude. NPS will probably let you out onto the beach w/out a permit as long as you kill any random zombies you find.
    #11
  12. JaxObsessed

    JaxObsessed Endeavor to persevere.

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2009
    Oddometer:
    23,075
    Location:
    From Alabama to Newfoundland, it's all Appalachian
    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl Can't wait!! :D

    #12
  13. Greebe

    Greebe Adventurer

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2010
    Oddometer:
    73
    NPS = National Police State? Seems to fit better than National Park Service. They are taking away most of our rights to take motorized vehicles off road in land that is technically owned by the citizens of this country. In fact they are making it so that a lot of our national land is off limits to even foot traffic and camping. You practically need a freaking permit to leave the house these days. Seems that the UN Agenda 21 is coming along pretty well in this country.

    [​IMG]

    Greebe
    #13
  14. pbharvey

    pbharvey Tagoholic

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2009
    Oddometer:
    883
    #14
  15. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,504
    Location:
    Central NC
    Before you know it, the "government" will be telling you what kind of health insurance you're allowed to have and how much money you have to give to other people.
    #15
  16. wparkinson

    wparkinson Gear Whore

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Oddometer:
    2,071
    Location:
    Down On the Farm...
    I don't know who some of you are talking to but I live in Hyde County which is where Ocracoke is located and I can tell you that the Locals are not in favor of this new rule. This is going to severely hurt the tourist trade.... which much of the Outer Banks rely on. Hatteras village has almost lost all of its tourism since the the south end of that Island was shut due to the Piping plover.

    This is just another way for the land grab by the government that has caved to the pressure of the environmentalists. I am sure ya'll have seen it in the western part of the state. How many acres of "public land" in western NC have been closed to any kind of Motor vehicles? Well except Loggers.... No offense to loggers... Just like the Hoffman State Forest near Jacksonville NC....the only people that can go in there are Foresters and Loggers.... well and Equine people that seem to always get a pass every where they go. Which I have never understood since they seem to do more damage then motorcycles ever do....plus they shit every where..

    WP
    #16
  17. ihatefalling

    ihatefalling Let it roll

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    Oddometer:
    3,508
    Location:
    Franklin, TN
    :lol3
    #17
  18. FishHunt

    FishHunt slow poking...

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,550
    Location:
    Asheboro, N.C.
    All you have to do to find out who wants and benefits from any closure in NC is just follow the money.

    I love rural Hyde county and Ocracoke Island. I have great memories of all the fishing and hunting I have done there. From bear hunts beside New Lake to nights that are fuzzy and hard to recall out on Ocracoke, I love them all. I'm afraid because of the voice of the few the fun is gone for many.

    <>< Fish
    #18
  19. wb57

    wb57 Long timer

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    8,504
    Location:
    Central NC
    Could not be more true when you look into what happened at Tellico either.
    #19
  20. dfishman

    dfishman Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2007
    Oddometer:
    173
    I have lived on Hatteras Island for 29 years & I know of not one local that wants a permit/tax to ride the beach.They (NPS) TOOK LAND from native Islanders around 1950 to make a "recreational area" for all .The locals were paid a small amount of money and told they would always be able to access the beach as they have in the past.These new rules closed most of the best fishing areas & charge to ride on a small bit of the beach.The govt have killed this place.They want us all broke & on entitlement programs.I for one would much rather work for my living,but I feel the traditional Hatteras touristHard working middle class) is becomimg extinct.This is worse than any hurricane damage we ever had.
    #20