New Snow Shoes/where to find Vredestein Snow+ tires

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by DirtyDR, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Boondox

    Boondox Travels With Barley

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    I see several of the Kumho out there in AZ, but nothing about shipping on their webpage. I'll call tomorrow. Thanks for the info.
    Pete
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  2. RWAZ

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    One thing to remember, shipping isn't so bad because if you by from an out of state company you don't have to pay sales tax so it usually is about an even trade.

    Roger
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  3. RWAZ

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    For anyone interested, I just received my tires from Denver to Phoenix. 2 tires for a total of $30.00 shipping. $15.00 each isn't so bad, back out the sales tax I didn't have to pay so my net freight is about $5.00 each.
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  4. Boondox

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    SCORE!!!

    Just got off the phone with Tony. They will get me a shipping quote in the morning and get me all taken care of!

    Thanks for posting this! :D
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  5. DirtyDR

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    Cogratulations, I knew these guys had plenty but I didn't realize that it would be that difficult to find these tires anywhere else.

    I asked Roger to throw the "where to find Vredestein Snow+ tires" in the thread title so that it might help people find this information in the future. I guess I never thought a picture of my new tires would go this far in a thread. You guys know that you are going to have to put up some pictures of these on your rigs now.
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  6. DirtyDR

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    David,
    Sorry but I must have missed this post, I am really not ignoring you. I am guessing by now you have picked up some more information on where to get these though.

    Are you looking for a nice tire for your trip through Colorado on the way to and from Coeur d'Alene?
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  7. BMWzenrider

    BMWzenrider The Road Scholar

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    Be aware that the Kumho 758 was discontinued at least 2 years ago, so any stock of those are going to be at least 2-3 year old tires, and getting older sitting in the Arizona heat...

    Many tire industry experts believes that most tires should not be run that are more than 6 years old.

    Other countries actually have expiration dates for tires, but not here in the USA...
    Buyer beware!

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  8. mightymatt43

    mightymatt43 URALiNEED

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    I just ordered a couple of the Snow+ tires to take down to South America to replace the straight street tires that we have on our rig right now. Really could have used the extra traction in Patagonia.

    After a few fruitless emails back and forth to Premier Tire Terminal in Denver (I have been out of the country since a couple days ago) I called this morning and was able to make an order. The shipping from Denver to San Antonio, TX was $65 and the tires were $99.68/tire. Not cheap but there are not a lot of options in this size.

    Anyway, it looks like another successful order from Premier Tire Terminal for those looking for the Snow+. Just make sure you call as opposed to trying to order by email.
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  9. Boondox

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    Matt -- I took my rig to Max BMW last Friday for some warranty work. It snowed on me most of the way back home (170 miles) but didn't stick till the very end. I had an Oh crap moment when I reached the bottom of my steep hill and saw two inches of slush on the ground. The Vredestein Snow+ handled it just fine.
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  10. mightymatt43

    mightymatt43 URALiNEED

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    Nice! That's what I'm looking for - a bit more confidence in my tire. It will be pain to get it down to Chile but I think it will be worth it in the end. Thanks for posting your own experience...
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  11. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    After seeing Matt's "order" post with Premier Tire (http://www.premiertire.com) in Denver for a Vredestein 165SR/15 M&S.... ordered some more in case they run out. Got em'..they're on the way. Since we don't have "snow" where I live I use them mainly for dirt trail/grass/mud,etc. $99 Buckeroos for a single; $25 buckeroos shipping to NC.

    Be aware that they will do just fine on "most" terrains except going up steep loose gravel roads/slimy mud, loose rocks, etc....most all regular tires don't do well anyhow on these steep slopes. So take caution...turn off your ABS!

    Cheers...
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  12. Nsfrt

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    I also have a first experience with Vredestein Show+ tires:

    Trip length: 1000km (621 miles)
    Trip duration: 3 days
    Temperature: 15 - 20 °C (59 - 68 F)
    Average speed: approx 70 km/h (43,5 miles/hour)
    95% pavement
    Hack: R1100GS
    Hack loaded with: approx 170 kg (375lb)
    Tire dimension: 155R15
    Original pattern depth: 9,2 mm
    After the trip pattern depth front tire: 8,7 mm
    After the trip pattern depth front tire: 8,3 mm
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    Predicted lifetime of the Vredestein Snow+ tire:
    Front tire: 18.400 km (11.400 miles)
    Rear tire: 10.200 km (6.300 miles) :eek1

    Under conditions, that the pattern is worn completely at the end of lifetime and the wear rate is constant over the complete lifetime.

    I must say, that I have expected longer lifetime. I do not expect constant wear rate, which will result in better lifetime than 10.200 km. But on the other hand, who will wear the tire completely to the 0.0 mm pattern depth.

    Conclusion: I am disappointed with this tire.


    What are your experiences with this tire regarding lifetime? :ear
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  13. Abenteuerfahrer

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    Oh, sure 95% pavement will eat this tire like candy. It's a snow/mud tire so it will wear faster on pavements where one goes 70 mph. Mine is intended to be used mostly on dirt roads and occassional pavement on the way to trails.. If I get at least 6000 miles out of it..I'm happy- compared to the rear Tourance from which I got only 3000+.

    Cheers...
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  14. Abenteuerfahrer

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    Another new Vredie...

    Going a bit offroad so decided to get another Vredie M/S and put the Nexen which is on the sidecar in abeyance. Now the sidecar and pusher will both sport identical Vredies. Should the pushers Vredie erase it's treads quickly then can always swap the sidecars with the newer Vredie which hardly ever wears down. :D

    Nexen on the left....Vredestein M/S on the right..

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    Notice that the Vredie has a higher load index than the similar 165/15 nexen.

    Nexen-LD 80=992#
    Vredestein-LD 86=1168#

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    Also be mindful of the manufacturing date of the tire: Here.. ..DOT DVTB VMW (4511) = 4/5/11 which is a one year old tire, pretty fresh!

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    I don't think that you ever need a 990# load index in the rear :deal. So both the Nexen and Vredie are just fine only that the Vredie will have better traction in the "bad" stuff than the Nexen:huh.

    So Amigos..roll on and get your Vredies now before the slow boat from Holland won't bring another batch of em' !

    Cheers...
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  15. DirtyDR

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    About time for me to pull the Vredestein off of the GS rig and put a new Nexen on for Alaska. I wouldn't mind the Vredestein up there but I don't think there would be much left of it after the asphalt haul to get there besides I have a TKC 80 on the stock rear wheel for a spare if the road gets too nasty.

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  16. Boxer Metal

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    I have over 100k miles on Vredestein-tires and I have to say they are the best wearing and super off road. I had a really hard time getting them 2 years ago.
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  17. Abenteuerfahrer

    Abenteuerfahrer Deaf on Wheels

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    You mean you got 100,000 miles not Km on the Vredestein M/S or the standard street Vredestein? If so..wooo..you da Man:clap What's your secret in this longevity:deal.
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