new tire coming up Karoo 3

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by deguoren, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. Kiwi Tinkerer

    Kiwi Tinkerer Ross

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    I think Cars do not have so much weight transfer to the front wheel.
    So front and wheel placement is the same. Though many tyres have the channels in both directions.

    yes, I'd love to find a good diagram to show what I mean.
    I had not thought much about it until this thread. It makes perfect sense to me. But it is not so easy to explain.
  2. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Long timer

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    Maybe because a car tire is wider and flatter, so it has more water to channel out and displace to prevent hydroplaning? On a thinner MC tire, there's relatively little water that you're rolling over to get pushed into the treads at the center of the tire, maybe enough that the weight on the tire on a relatively small contact patch prevents the water/mud from entering channels between the threads at a high enough pressure to cause the surface of the lugs to lift off the road surface? Obviously, the weight on the tire would be negated as speeds increase, but I'll bet they calculated those speeds into the design of the tire. In deeper dirt/mud at slower speeds, is that as much of a concern, as the spinning of the tire will throw the dirt/mud in between the treads out by centripital force? Just a thought... Interesting discussion.
  3. RobbieO

    RobbieO Muskokatard

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    Does anyone have any information on how the Karoo 3 works in varied conditions???????

    The current discussion is boring and not really relevent.........
  4. Kiwi Tinkerer

    Kiwi Tinkerer Ross

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    Yes, we have strayed off topic a bit. Tread pattern discussion is relevant. You don't have to read it all.

    Anyway... the tyres are due for release here in NZ this month. The current karoo is approx NZ$350 which is about the same as a Hidineau. Twice the price of a 705. (Probably twice the mileage)
    I am still keen on trying one.
  5. WIBO

    WIBO Will it buff out?

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    Any update as to what these tyres are like from those who purchased?

    :D
  6. GeeK_InsiDe

    GeeK_InsiDe Moore Gas!!!

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    More than 1000km with my Karoo 3 and still really happy with them.

    I'm curious to know how many kilometres I'll make with the rear...
  7. WIBO

    WIBO Will it buff out?

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    How much tread is left after 10K kms?....25% etc?

    Did you use them much more in the mud and what are they like in the wet?

    Thanks for any information..

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  8. MonsterJ

    MonsterJ I have motopsychosis

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    WIBO,

    This has nothing to do with tires.... but I can't stop laughing at your signature. That's some funny shit!
  9. WIBO

    WIBO Will it buff out?

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  10. VincitOmnia

    VincitOmnia Flyover Adventurer

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    I've had mine on my GSA for about 500 miles now. Mostly commuting on surface streets, fair amount of gravel roads, a little bit of highway, and some messing around in the field behind the house.

    Very well behaved on the street. Quieter on the highway than the TKCs I was running. Traction and control on the gravel - especially braking- is at least as good as the TKCs, which surprised me. Haven't had them in the mud yet, but they work quite well in the sandy soil of our field.

    So far I'm liking them a lot.

    Leaving for AK and the NWT on Saturday so I'll have more data on how they wear in a few weeks.

    VO
  11. WIBO

    WIBO Will it buff out?

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    Thanks for the reply...

    If you find any mud you could report back if you'd be so kind?

    :D
  12. Snowy

    Snowy Long timer

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    You'll never sort it in your head until you learn to think, stop demanding to be spoon fed, and get some time up in life.

    Your own justification for not believing sounds like it was written by an 8 year old.

    Simple physics. So simple it isn't worth going into with someone who's best answer is "nuh uh, no way".

    If you are, in fact, suffering from one of the "window licker" spectrum disorders I apologise unreservedly. It surely isn't your fault.

    If you are serious with your objections.....well.....they may one day ban you from reproducing so you should probably knock a couple kids out while you can.




    What?


    You were all thinking it. Especially that moderator that keeps banning me. You were thinking it. Yes....you were. :evil
  13. Sohere

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    You nailed it!
  14. IL adv

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    I have a set of Karoo 3's and a set of 705's in my possession. We are leaving for a trip to Colorado from IL. in a couple of weeks for some gravel/off road 2 up riding, when we get there so a lot of pavement out there and back but hopefully mostly off highway in Colorado. I was hoping to get some opinion or thoughts on this combo? I was thinking the karoo 3 on the front would give better control on the gravel then the 705 front but still be ok for the 5 to 6K trip out there and back? Thanks
  15. B_C_Ries

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    How does this tire do in sand?
  16. IL adv

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    I have not ran either one of these tires before but I would think the karoo would be better in the sand then the 705. I've also never been to Colorado so.....
  17. VincitOmnia

    VincitOmnia Flyover Adventurer

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    Just returned from a trip up through BC, the Yukon and NWT. Rode the Dempster, Telegraph Creek, South Canol Road, Top of the World Highway, and other cool roads. Three days of nonstop rain in BC gave me lots of opportunity to evaluate the K3's on rain slicked roads, gravel, and mud. The tires were awesome. As steady or better than my TKCs in the rain and gravel. Through the ever present oil coated, freshly graded gravel we encountered on the Dempster they handled very well. Rode them aired down to about 25/30 off road and 32/36 on the pavement. No issues at either inflation level, and no flats. Ended up with 5,000+ miles total, which included a significant portion of off road riding, on a fully loaded GSA. They had about 400 miles on them when I started. The front is still in great shape, looks like it could easily do another 5,000 miles, and the rear is about 70% gone. I expect that the rear has another 1,000 miles for sure left in it for off road use, and maybe 2,000 of street use. I'm going to leave it on the rest of the summer and see how many more miles I get out of it, but it'll be mostly commuting on a stripped down bike so it's not a very accurate measure of how much more I could've gotten on a fully loaded bike.

    I gotta say though, these are the tires I'm sticking with for now. They behaved very well in everything I put them through on this trip. I've heard some others complain about them wearing out really fast in warmer climates, but that hasn't been an issue for me at all yet. Maybe when it gets warmer here I'll have a chance to experiment with riding them on really hot pavement.

    VO
  18. WIBO

    WIBO Will it buff out?

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    Splendid mini review....thanks.

    How did you find the front tyre for grip and steering?...

    :D
  19. ADVCanuck

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    ...my Karoo (T)`s front and rear! Wondering about wear - heading to Rally at the Gorge in Stevenson, WA and planning to return to BC on the WABDR - trial runs on Vancouver logging mains and secondaries are promising so far - kinda want them to be around to spoon on when this set wears out...
  20. VincitOmnia

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    The front seemed to be at least as solid in the turns as the TKC80 on gravel. I went out before the trip began on the gravel road I live on and experimented with emergency stops and cornering and it was very solid.

    On pavement it was noticeably better braking than either the TKC or K60 I've previously tried.

    It wobbles some on the steel bridge decking, but just about any tire will do that.