New Tires are slippery....AAARRRRGGG!

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by lemaster63, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. Kt-88

    Kt-88 I like everything.

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    I was a tire tech for six years. Maybe I can dispel some over complicated thinking.
    1.)You use soap and water as lube on a machine mounted tire. Too much soap and it stays slippery.
    2.)There's generally a film on new tires. We were always told it was to help preserve new looks of the tire in shipping. It's slippery as hell. Walk into a high volume tire shop and look at the floor next to the tire rack- it will never need to be waxed, I promise you.

    Yes. New tires are slippery. They haven't abraded any and the rubber is only contacting on the slightly less flexible first .001" of rubber than every bit of tire beneath it.

    If you heat the tire first that's generally fine too as it softens that exterior just the way it does the rest of the tire. Guess what- recreational amateur riders don't heat their tires before leaving a store and the store sure won't heat them, either.

    Simple green can degrade some rubber compounds a bit excessively for this purpose. 1:10 dish soap and water and a soft scrub brush is absolutely just fine for the film and the mildly tougher first .001" of tire won't be so significantly different as to be dangerous without it.
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  2. NorCalslowpoke

    NorCalslowpoke Long timer

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    I've probably posted this prior. But I always wire wheel or 60 grit sandpaper my tires now. Only takes about 1 minute per tire. Maybe there are better ways of doing it.

    I had once brought my Guzzi wheels home after getting new rubber, early on in my riding life. I Installed the wheels and took the first corner on a downtown city block. Both wheels started sliding, almost lost it. I pulled over and freaked out a bit. I went back to the house, 1 block away, sanded the tires, no problem after that.

    I'll never forget that brief "riding on ice" feeling.
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  3. Ohio_Danimal

    Ohio_Danimal Midlife Crisis Man

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    That's a hell of a first post.:freaky

    you'll heal. She won't
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  4. bob393

    bob393 Been here awhile

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    I change my own tires and never had a problem.
    Perhaps my short ride on the gravel out of the garage scrubs them a bit.

    WOW another thing to be aware of. :huh
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  5. RidingAgin

    RidingAgin Been here awhile

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    I put TKC80 on my F650GS twin and took it easy for 30 miles till I could hit some dirt and gravel. After that rubin, they tires seems to be a lot better. No issues with knobs on slab yet

    Black ice time already in WA.
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  6. fyrfytr

    fyrfytr B.U.F.F.

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    I use starting fluid. Ether cleans anything and evaporates very quickly. Just use in a well ventilated area away from sparks.

    OP, glad you're mostly okay.
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  7. Nevada

    Nevada Been here awhile

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    It only takes one to bite you. I was on my 5th new (2nd front), 150 yards from starting point when it washed out on me. Take the "new tires are slippery" meme to heart, it is not merely an urban myth.
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  8. brenter

    brenter Brenter

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    I had a brand new 05 LT and got a nail in the front tire. I took the wheel off and had a new tire installed. Never thought about the new tire being slick(never had a problem in 30 years of riding). Went to the first intersection which was a divided highway, went accross the first two lanes and turned left with a sporty lean and down my brand new 2000 mile bike went. I landed in the left lane, thank God there were not cars coming from behind me! The bike must have slid a 100 yards going in to the right lane and eventually curving back towards the median. About the time the LT got to the grass median it finally stopped. The damage was bad, but not as bad as I had imagined. I just had jeans on with a protective jacket and gloves. The jeans tore and I got a pretty good rash on the knee, other than that it was just pride.
    That was a hard way to learn a lesson, but I always find a gravel road now and take it real easy unitl I get there.
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