New (To ME) 1992 R100GS with title issues

Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by uneasy_rider1972, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:33 AM.

  1. uneasy_rider1972

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    Hello all,
    I recently acquired a 92 R100GS at an estate sale that belonged to a deceased friend. He bought it new, worked at the dealership and maintained it quite well, but it has been in his shop untouched for a couple of years during probate. Long story short, the title is nowhere to be found and the executor over the estate wants nothing to do with any of the dealings anymore, so I am left with the dilemma of a nice bike (with a few small issues), with no title. I am searching for a frame with a title to swap everything over and get it all legal, but my question is what year frames will work with the 92 GS, and if anyone on here might be able to hook me up with a frame or a good lead on one. I have found one on Ebay, but it is almost $500 for a 89, which seems too high to me, although I have a rather small investment in the bike due to he title situation. Thanks for any input, it will be greatly appreciated as I have been jumping through the DMV hoops for weeks now, with no luck.
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  2. KiwiKurt

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    dude, all I can say is that I feel for you. Dealing with titling issues with state government's/DMV's is such a colossal pain in the ass.

    The only thing I can suggest to avoid a frame swap would be taking the bill of sale and applying for a duplicate title; but given than you mention DMV hoops you probably already have. Option 2 would be consult an estate attorney, but not sure that would be cheaper than the $500 for the 89 off ebay......

    Best of luck.
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  3. lewisjr1

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    Simply check out putting a mechanic's or storage lien on it for a reasonable daily fee. That'd be in the $25-50 per day range in places I've usu. lived.

    When you file the mechanic's lien, be sure to obtain, understand, and follow your state's law re: converting the lien to valid title. There'll be a waiting period of (most likely) 3-6 mo., but there may be an exception for old & small dollar vehicles (which you should absolutely claim it to be).

    The admin. process will take a while, buy it'll only be paperwork vs. mechanically rebuilding another frame. Plus, in the end the bike will still be essentially stock. The resulting title will very likely be utterly clean, too - may depend upon your state.
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  4. uneasy_rider1972

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    Thanks for the feedback, do you guys happen to know if the 89 frame would be a direct swap? Another option that I am looking into is a bonded title, but I have to take a day off of work to get it inspected due to the crazy DMV inspector hours.
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  5. turnerm

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    I hate title issues. I bought a Vespa last year that the seller was awarded in a court. Unfortunately the seller wrote the wrong VIN number in the court papers so now my VIN and registration have an incorrect VIN. In this case too, the seller refuses to do anything more to help.
    In FL they do have something called a bonded title. You buy a bond, pretty cheap, and you get a full title and registration but its bonded, which allows any previous owners to make a claim.
    But after 3 years it becomes a normal title.
    Not sure what states have this.
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    I'd buy a $200 scooter off CL, get a tag, and put it on the beemer.
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  7. uneasy_rider1972

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    Trust me, it has crossed my mind, but NC has yearly inspections that could cause issues with that.
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    Bummer. Do you have to take the title to the inspection station?
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  10. uneasy_rider1972

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    Yeah, but it is a roll of the dice whether they look at the VIN. Trying to pass title for a something else could be a little sketchy. If I could find a title close to the same year model, I would give it a go though.
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    Thanks, that is currently what I am considering. The DMV inspector is only in his office 8-10am tues-thurs, so once again the DMV makes it a challenge to get anything done.
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  12. uneasy_rider1972

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    Well, I gave in and ordered the frame with title, seemed like the path of least resistance at this point, although I still hate to swap everything over. I guess it would be a good chance to give everything a thorough once over and replace and lube up items that tend to get neglected. Thanks for all of the input.
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    I did a bonded title in AZ. Bought knowing it had no title and last registered owner died in Prison. If probate wants nothing to do with bike, tell him to ignore the registered letter you send him and you will get the bonded title that will turn into a clear title. The chick at the AZ DMV was badass. She skipped bonded and gave me a clear title with previous title # as bonded. Sometimes you just get lucky.
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