New (to Me) 2000 Kawasaki W650

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by The Jerk, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. zwish

    zwish Adventurer

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    Ok awesome. Good to know. I've been doing some "spirited" riding since becoming more comfortable with the bike and I wanted to make sure that didn't contribute to anything. Thanks very much.
  2. Pigford

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  3. OaklandStrom

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    I wonder what eliminating the airbox and running short, straight pipe will do for it? Other than making it annoying loud.

    It's interesting to see how different the bike is with minimal frame mods. I like most of it.

  4. acap650

    acap650 acap650

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    Really? More of a posercycle a la douch ex machina. And the tires must be a handful on grooved pavement - probably not much worse than the oem BS. At least he kept the front disk.
  5. ORexpat

    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    Sorry . . . I like the style. Not quite what I'd do, but it's a good looking motorsickle. It may not run any better with the pipes and air filters than the stock set up, but it looks fine--and jetted right it shouldn't run any worse. Losing a bit of weight wouldn't hurt the performance any, though likely too loud for an old fart like me.

    I keep the stock tail light and turn signals because I often ride in heavy traffic, and I want those things to be as visible as possible, so I'd not do the small tail light and no turn signals. But that's just me. This is a cool looking bike.

    Beats an Orange County chopper six ways to Sunday.
  6. Kentucky

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    Finished prepping the W for a nice little ride. Leaving home in Daytona Beach next wednesday to ride to NOLA Motorsports Park to announce the season championship for the AMA Pro Road Racing season. Leaving the NOLA the following Monday to ride to LA (Pomona) to announce the AMA Pro Grand National Championship the following weekend. This will be my second coast to coast trip on the W. It is a fantastic touring motorcycle.

    My route will be predominately a southern one across I-10 on the way out. Coming home will be a 6 or 7 day victory lap to celebrate the end of the 2012 racing season for me. It has been an amazing year announcing MotoGP twice, World Superbike and every round of the AMA Pro Road Racing season plus all but three rounds of the 2012 Grand National flat track season.

    It would be cool to meet up with some W owners on the way home. I'm leaving LA on the 15th of October. Not sure exactly of my route back to Daytona but it will certainly include a good bit of two lane.
    Barry
  7. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Sounds like a fun ride. I am in Robbinsville,NC and there are several other W owners around here so if you are in Western NC or Eastern TN give us a shout via this thread or PM and we will try and meet up.
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    Three W at Tellico Plains,TN
  8. Kentucky

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    Cool. I may need to slip up to Charleston, WV soon. Maybe we can meet up.
    Barry
  9. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    OK so I go to fire up the W to take a ride today. It's been sitting unused about a month. Fire it up, it runs fine on the choke but as soon as it comes off the choke it's clear that it's running on only one cylinder.

    Exhaust from #2 is cold, exhaust from #1 is normal. First thought is clogged pilot jet. Drop float bowl on #2 (which is full of fuel, no float bowl valve problem), remove main jet and pilot jet. Fuel in the float bowl is clean with no debris (I have a clear fuel filter installed between tank and carbs, it's clean). No blockages seen, blow 'em both out with carb cleaner and also squirt carb cleaner up into the jet holes in the carbs. Put it back together, no change.

    Check the spark plugs out just in case it's an easy ignition problem (doesn't feel like an ignition problem but...), even swap the plugs between cylinders, no change.

    I guess next step (which I was hoping to avoid) is pull carbs, disassemble and clean. That'll be a project for another day. Anybody got any other suggestions?

    Will try to run it again in a couple days just in case the gas and carb cleaner I ran through today takes a little while to dissolve any gunk blocking things up. I hate pulling the carbs on this bike, it's such a project.
  10. Bar None

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    Jerk,
    You are getting spark to the none running cylinder,right?
  11. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    Yeah because it runs on 2 when it's on the choke.
  12. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    But you said it was cold?
  13. ORexpat

    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    Torn diaphragm??? :ear
  14. Bar None

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    Or big vacuum leak?
  15. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    Sorry, to clarify - goes cold when the choke is turned off and engine clearly goes from running on two to running on one
  16. The Jerk

    The Jerk Bring us some fresh wine!

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    Checked it out, diaphragm is good.
  17. Bar None

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    Jerk,

    Just a suggestion but you might try Ray Nielsen's technique below before removing the carbs.

    A shortcut to carburetor cleaning
    Without complete disassembly!

    I’ve had good luck with a fairly non-invasive trick that might be of interest to others as well. I’ve used it on the W and my Suzuki Bandit 1200 with good results and with several friend’s bikes too.

    Start by disconnecting the fuel line from the petcock and draining the carbs at the float bowl screws. You’ll need an allen wrench for the W – don’t know the size, but it’s not very large. Soak up the run-off lest you make a complete mess of the garage floor. The right screw is easy to loosen, the left side will require a reach and maybe a pair of pliers or a vise grips to hold the allen wrench. Don’t take them out completely, just loosen them about one turn and drain all the fuel until nothing further comes out. Tighten the drain screws when you’re done.

    Next fill the float bowls with Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner – I bought mine at Checker Auto Parts for about $6 for a12 Oz bottle. An infant ear syringe works well to fill the carbs, just suck it from the Techron bottle or a small container and fill the carbe until no more will enter. I fill to the top of the fuel line that connects to the petcock.

    Let this mixture sit – overnight if the carbs are really cruddy, a couple of hours if they simply need cleaning from a winter layover.

    Next, drain the float bowls again as before, reconnecting the fuel line to the petcock when done. Put the petcock into the PRIME position to fill the carbs with gas, and go for a ride with better performing carbs.

    The Techron Fuel System Cleaner won’t harm any internal carb parts. While other carburetor cleaners might work just as well I haven’t tried any other brands. At least one person on this list has successfully used Yamaha’s carb cleaner mixed half and half with gasoline. The instructions on the container are similar to the above procedure so it probably works similarly.

    Here’s to clean carburetors!

    Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis
  18. Duelsporter

    Duelsporter Been here awhile

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    I hope you guys don't mind me posting in the is thread.

    A few weeks ago, I was sitting around with not much to do so I decided I would
    finally do someting about the slight factory orange-peel texture in the paint on
    the silver / blue tank of my 2000 W650. I've wet sanded several tanks in the
    past, and even a couple of cars. I've never had an issue with going too deep
    into the paint -- that is -- until now. I guess the factory paint on these
    tanks is pretty thin, and with it being silver, even though I was using
    1000-grit automotive sandpaper and a flexible sanding block, before I knew it I
    had sanded through the silver on a spot about 10mm in size. Crap! Live and
    learn, I guess.

    As long as I had to get new paintwork anyway, I took the opportuity to change
    the color. I had always liked the black and red paint scheme that was available
    in Canada on the '00 or '01 model, so I decided to have it replicated on my
    tank. We have a local guy here who only paints motorcycles, and who has a
    reputation for doing good work. I had him paint the tank black with a
    candy-apple red insert, in the same configuration as the stock tank. I think it
    turned out pretty well -- here are a couple of pictures:

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  19. jmlmjmjm

    jmlmjmjm Been here awhile

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    Duelsporter....one word. Beautiful!
  20. Bar None

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    Duelsporter,
    Looks like a factory job to me. Or even a little better.
    If you ever ride up to around the Robbinsville,NC area let me know and I'll try to meet up with you.