New (to Me) 2000 Kawasaki W650

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by The Jerk, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. Duelsporter

    Duelsporter Been here awhile

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    Took the W for a nice 120 mile ride today. Beautiful early fall day in Georgia. :D

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  2. Duelsporter

    Duelsporter Been here awhile

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    Hey - I've been there! But on the DR650 -- not the W. :lol3

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  3. zwish

    zwish Adventurer

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    I blocked off the KCA with a marble today. This is a HUGE improvement. I shouldn't have waited so long to do it. First off, there is zero popping when I clutch in or decelerate, but more importantly, everything feels much smoother now; accelerating, engine braking. Thanks for the assistance.
  4. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Zwish,
    Glad the marble mod helped but in theory it should only reduce the popping and maybe make the engine run a little cooler.

    The air is injected downstream of the exhaust valve to increase the burn of any exhaust gases to reduce emissions. Some W650 owners here have had improvements when removing the entire air injection system and capping off the vacuum port at four way fitting that is used to drive the air pump. The theory in that situation is there was an air leak in the hose or pump causing a lean condition.
  5. zwish

    zwish Adventurer

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    Man, I thought the same thing and I had read the Jerk's post a ways back about how when he actually removed the system instead of just blocking it off, it caused a 300rpm rise in his idle (probably curing an air leak). But there is a definite, noticeable improvement in the way the bike accelerates and engine brakes now. Maybe I'm crazy, but either way, I'm pleased with the results.
  6. Pigford

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    Bike should be quicker ... loosing 50lbs of useless garbage from the bike :huh
  7. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    More like 5 lbs at best. I removed the entire air injection system from my W but didn't notice any difference in performance.
  8. zwish

    zwish Adventurer

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    Damnit, just let me enjoy my perceived performance enhancement! Haha!

    New question for you folks. Would you think it unwise to run the bike without a rear fender? I'm trying to go for that super stripped down vibe and I think it would look really cool. The airboxes and carbs don't look like they would be in any danger from water and debris, but I could be wrong. If I remove the front fender as well, I would get a Super Brace. Just curious if I would damage anything.
  9. Speedo66

    Speedo66 Transient

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    Well. you'll definitely risk a skunk stripe up your back the first time you hit wet weather. :lol3
  10. ORexpat

    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    . . . and when you remove the front fender, all that water gets sprayed on the engine and up in the air . . . . and then lands on your face . . . :evil

    Since I ride in the rain as a matter of routine, I've no intention of cutting down or removing my fenders.

    For the fair-weather-only folks, I don't believe fender removal would cause any real problems. You might put a cut-down piece of plastic fender under the saddle/behind the airbox, just to keep rocks and gravel from causing damage.
  11. zwish

    zwish Adventurer

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    I used to have a little CJ360T without any fenders and the license plate acted as a mini rear fender. I don't remember water spray being an issue in the front either as I commute almost every day on the bike. Good call on tucking a small sheet of plastic back there if I decide to give it a shot.
  12. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    zwish,
    You could ask someone who has replaced their W650 rear fender because of the splitting if they would sell you their old fender and you could just chop it off and still have the protection. I believe the Jerk replaced his rear fender with the new improved version.
  13. DaBinChe

    DaBinChe Long timer

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    I'm just about done with my w675.

    List of things done:
    Super Brace
    RaceTech fork springs (lowered an inch) and gold emulator
    Hagon rear shocks (210mm, which should come out to about an inch lower at rear axle)
    shorten center stand an inch and bent out kick stand
    Honda CB600F handle bar (3" rise and 28" width at bar end weights) with problem solver bar shims
    Shorten throttle cable (cut them down and solder new ends)
    Shorter clutch cable (from oem low bar)
    stainless steel braided brake line
    HH brake pads
    Signal Dynamics headlight and brake light modulator
    Powder coated fenders and grab bars
    spot welded on gussets on rear fender
    smaller turn signals
    2001 knee pads
    trimmed seat and upholstered (plan on trimming down the middle hump flat)
    Rapid Transit tail bag
    Gerbing electric heater ready
    oil dip stick thermometer
    de-baffled stock mufflers
    air/fuel screw at 2.5 turns out and shim needles
    All emissions stuff removed/replaced properly not just plugged up
    BT45's tires with over 5k miles (looks like they will last 6k miles) Trying some Pilot Activ next

    Big improvements were the suspension upgrades and the lower handle bars. Lower the bike an inch did reduce ground clearance a little but I like the lower center of gravity. Carb tune is just right and am getting over 60mpg taking it easy, upper 50's mpg thru the mountains and about mid 50's mpg if I ride it like a sports bike. Overall the bike feels much better then stock...almost sold it when it was stock cause I wasn't happy with how it rode but now am very happy.

    Thinking about taking off the emblems, just don't like how thick they are, makes the bike look wider. If I do do it then they will be replaced with W's. Bike is a little dirty in this pic, hadn't washed it in about 3 months.


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  14. Speedo66

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    Got good news yesterday from my local dealer, my little mishap caused no fork or frame damage.

    So I'll rebuild, already had new throttle cables installed, now looking for a new headlight. Need to order turn signals and another low bar.

    Looking for opinions as to whether (and how) the foot peg bracket can be unbent.
  15. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    Speedo66,
    That is good news. She will be good as new soon.
    How about a close up of the bent bracket? Maybe someone can come up with a suggestion.
    Hunker down for Sandy and be safe.
  16. Speedo66

    Speedo66 Transient

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    Visiting my daughter in OH, won't be back to the east coast 'till next weekend. Hope my houses are still up with no trees through them.

    Good luck to all in Sandy's path, and stay safe. :freaky
  17. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    If you strip it down just make sure you do your bike justice. W's are gorgeous bikes with a ton of potential as a custom. :nod

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  18. Bar None

    Bar None Candy Ass

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    GB,
    Is that your W? Very nice job but way too extreme for me. IMHO, unless I had a wrecked W I would leave it original but to each his own.
    I'll be back in SWFL for the winter soon so maybe we can have another W meet up say half way across the Alley.
  19. ORexpat

    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    I tend to agree with Barnone. W650's are relatively rare in the US, though much more common in Europe and Asia. I hate to see such a nice bike made less ridable in the name of an individual's view of aesthetics.

    I enjoy looking at custom work that enhances the joy of riding--cafe racers, scramblers, touring versions--and that don't destroy the bike's basic handling and ergonomics. That's my biggest complaint about "choppers." Most aren't built to be ridden, just gawked at. There's a lot of superb craftsmanship and creativity that go into many unrideable bikes--I respect that immensely. But many of the things done to those bikes detract from the ability to actually ride them.

    Contorted riding positions, ill-conceived tire sizes, etc.--meh. I'd rather go for a ride! :ricky
  20. DaBinChe

    DaBinChe Long timer

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    that is a sweet looking bike and looks very ride-able to me