New (to Me) 2000 Kawasaki W650

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  1. Bar None

    Bar None Long timer

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    pjensen641,
    Looks like you got a good one there and judging from your examination she is in good hands.
  2. pjensen641

    pjensen641 Been here awhile

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    Thanks Barnone!

    On to the Mods list. I would appreciate any input you guys have here.

    Low Bar Conversion
    I already know the bars will be way to high. I don't intend to put a windshield on this bike. So these high bars have to go, way to much air hitting me, I need a slight forward lean.

    So, I already know there is a super expensive low bar kit from Z-power. Instead I think I will piece something together as some others have done.

    Handlebars: This looks like the easy thing. Probably some 7/8" superbike or euro bend bars and shims. The Hyde M bars look interesting, anyone have photos on a W? Are they comfortable?

    Mirrors: Looks like BellaCorse still carries Napoleons? I thought they were discontinued? Other suggestions?
    Napoleon

    Brake Line: I would like to replace the 12 year old rubber line anyway. I want a stainless replacement. Looking for US sources, I found these for the low bar. Does anyone have any experience with either?:ear

    HEL

    Bremzen

    Clutch Cable/throttle cables:
    Anyone know where to get the low ones here? Else, I guess I will have to order from overseas if I cant get these to look right.

    Brake Lever: I have short fingers (No jokes about that:rofl). The brake lever is a long reach. Anyone know any reasonable adjustable levers? I would bet there is another kawasaki model that has a compatible one. Might just take this one into my local dealer and see what looks similar.

    Carb/intake Overhaul

    I want this thing to run as good as it can. Arbitrary EPA rules causing lean spots and fat top ends be damned. I think I will pick up a Factory Pro Kit. I like the fact that it is made up of OEM Kehin parts. Does anyone have a list of jets that come in the kit?

    Also, with 40K miles, I am wondering if the carbs need some wear parts replaced. Are these carbs hard on emulsion tubes (or whatever the thing the needle rides in). Any other parts prone to wear besides the seats?

    Air Filters: Anyone know of any replacements? Is there just the two slide in ones? These are looking original and ratty. I'll just get OEM's if no aftermarket ones exist.

    Airbox Mods: I don't want to do anything to drastic, but if there are some easy things to do that wont increase intake noise too much or let in water/dust, I'd be interested:ear I'm thinking some of these little guys.

    Round Filters
  3. Speedo66

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    I (and many others) immediately found the stock bars make you feel like a sail in the wind.

    Bikemasters Euro bend bars for less than $30 makes a huge difference. You will also need some spacers to install the 7/8" bar where it was formally 1", same for the controls.

    Nice bike, good luck with it.
  4. Pigford

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    I changed my Hi-bars for a low 7/8" set - no cable changes - just a bit of messing to get them in the right place.

    As for carb changes..... My set up is really sweet now...... the standard set-up is rather lean :huh I've removed the air emission crap

    I fitted a Sygma 6 kit from eBay. Running with STANDARD pipes & airbox & filter.
    Main jets up to 122.5 and pilots up just one size (both carbs the same).
    I did have a couple of shims fitted under the needles, but took them out again as the 1/4 - 1/2 throttle was a bit rich.
    No other mods apart from setting pilot screw 3 turns out (only a rough guide as bike to bike & altitude will effect this).


    Nice buy though - hope you enjoy :clap
  5. husqzilla

    husqzilla Been here awhile

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    This is the setup I had on my W before I sold the bike to an inmate here:

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    Very high quality, watertight and stout German stuff. The bags are the Benjamin model, probably 1980s or 90s vintage, and hold about 28L each. H&B makes a top box that mounts to the top rack, and their other hard bag models (Gobi, Journey, etc.) also fit this rack system.

    The bike is gone :waysad but the rack and bags are still gathering dust in my garage alongside lots of other parts from other bikes that I no longer own. I logged many thousands of miles on this bike with this setup.
  6. rulle_retard

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    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    Hmm. This sounds like the same question on the Yahoo Group, but the photos are interesting. I'm about as far from being a mechanic as possible, but I'd ask:

    1. How does it run? Still strong? If it does, it shouldn't be a blown head gasket.

    2. How do the plugs look? Tan, or oily?

    3. What's the condition of the airbox? Any oiliness in there?

    Reason I'm curious, if one of the oil breather lines was blocked and you were getting oil blown into the airbox, it could be pushing an oily air mixture through the carbs . . .

    Though I wouldn't expect a leak unless the intake tubes were old and porous . . . :hmmmmm
  8. rulle_retard

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    It is the same question :) Thought I throw it out here to!

    1. I have never ridden any other w650 but I think its running completely normal.

    2. The plugs doesnt look oily, more chocolate/tan like, pretty normal I guess.

    3. I cleaned the airfilters last summer, then the filters were pretty oily, and the airbox to. and the bike runs a lot better when I cleaned them and put on the "right" amount of oil on them. Doesnt know what the previous owner have did.

    Thats waht I´m thinking also, but just as you say, it shouldnt leak anything there anyway?!
    It seems that this oily, sticking thing has been there for a while. It is almost black (as you can see in 2 of the photos) and very sticky, it has not coming recently but this was the first time I checked under there.

    I just DONT want it to be any blown head gasket!? :(
  9. ORexpat

    ORexpat Oregon Expatriate

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    Well, even though the Dubya isn't a real MC powerhouse, it should still out-accellerate 95%+ of the cars on the road, and hit 85 mph and more with no trouble, eventually pop you over the "ton." If it will do that, or close, it probably doesn't have a blown head gasket!

    You might try to clean up the stains with solvent or something, and then watch them to see if they reappear. It could be a mess left over from the PO, like the oily airbox and air filters.

    Like Jon Haddock said (he's got an opinion on everything . . !!), if it's not exhibiting other symtoms, just ride it!
  10. rider929

    rider929 Been here awhile

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    I am thinking the previous owner may have over filled the engin oil a little. More oil and oil vaper gets blown back to the air box via the vent hose and sucked back into the carbs. What doesn't get burned collects and seeps out at the manifold.
  11. rulle_retard

    rulle_retard Adventurer

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    Ok, I hope thats the case! Thanks for the answers! :)
  12. Pigford

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    I'd re-torque the head just to be sure - these things sometimes settle a bit and loosen up a smidge :deal

    Doesn't look too bad - just clean it up and keep an eye on it.... if the head gasket was going you'd more then likely here a chirpy blowing noise - probably feel it blowing with a damp hand :wink:
  13. rulle_retard

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    Ok! But doesnt I need to take off the cam and everything in order to re-torque them? I can't access them just by take off the valve cover, right?
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    yeah I have thought of that too, but since the oily thing clearly coming from the carburetor mounts and have poured down to where the cylinder head meets the cylinder I doesnt think it is the oil tube. The spot I am worried about is this http://imageshack.us/a/img651/1796/bildmn.jpg
    That also seems to come from the mount but I am really not sure, but seems to far away from the oil tube anyways.
  16. Blakebird

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    that last picture looks like you have a weep AT the head gasket.
    Oil misting from the intake manifold area wouldn't capillary forward and surround the base of the head :D
  17. Bar None

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    I'd clean it good like ORexpat suggested and watch it. Let us know if the oil reappears.
  18. rulle_retard

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    It looks like the head gasket are made of metal?! Does anybody know?!
  19. pjensen641

    pjensen641 Been here awhile

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    Anyone have a headlamp trim ring laying around?:ear Mine has a bruise from the PO dropping it. I re-shaped it, but there are scratches through the chrome. They aren't too expensive from BikeBandit, but figured I would ask before I go that route.

    Thanks!
  20. rulle_retard

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    I cleaned the area around the carburetor manifolds and around the head gasket. Then I took her out for a spin, since the roads around the garage are just ice now in the winter I just made it up to 2nd gear but revved her up a couple of times. I was only out for about 10-15 min and when I come back there was no oil on the areas what so ever. The question is, if I have to be out driving for a longer time in higher gears to see if theres really a leak?!