1. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    I've yet to purchase a motorcycle and have been spinning around in circles for the last few months trying to decide what exactly I want to buy. Now, I've seen and sat on 4 brand new motorcycles thus far starting with;
    Triumph Tiger 800XC, BMW R1200GS/GSA, KTM 990 ADVENTURE, lastly Yamaha XT1200Z Tenere. All very beautiful machines in their own right, and each highly specialized in their own unique purpose. After seeing all of this brand new machinery and thinking of price, and getting it outfitted with gear, and buying new gear so on and so forth I took a step back and thought again of buying used. Now, after looking through Kijiji and sifting through every single 2nd hand GS out there, I started thinking about the Idea of buying used. However, there is a BUT! the but is, most of these machines have 65,000 KM'S and are going for around $10,000 used. Now, me as kind of a newbie/outsider to the world of GS and ADV machines am thinking to myself, "Isn't that a bit too much for a bike with 65,000 clicks on the clock?" what is it going to cost me to get the machine all tidy before my long journey? What am I going to pay for fixing all of the necessary items before actually being able to ride the machine XC. ETC.........



    So, again I come to you and ask you in your honest opinion what do you think is better?
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  2. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    You definitely get what you pay for either way. I personally hate breaking in a new bike but equally love the warranty & knowing it was done right. If you need to nickle and dime things in this arena of sport you're better off getting a new KLR or Vstrom & fully dressing it to your liking. :thumb
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  3. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    The thing is I have the cash to buy new.. the issue is, do I want to spend an additional 4-5 K dressing it all up? you feel me? lol these machines can drive you mad. ;)
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  4. Deuce

    Deuce Crazy Canuck

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    65k kms in nothing on any of these bikes. They are all just broken in. The only advice I can give based on experience is don't buy any BMW without some sort of extended warranty. The money you save buying used can be spent on vacation riding somewhere. :1drink
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  5. Dubl-A

    Dubl-A SuckerDucker

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    For sure! Sounds like you should narrow it down to late model, still under warranty. Have any pics of the used bikes for sale in your area?
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  6. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    Good to know, me being inexperienced when it comes to these machines. Well, I would be buying privately to save on sales tax. I don't know much about the GS flaws, and in terms of a warranty that would be a good idea!
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  7. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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  8. GB

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    Two BMW 12GS both with servo assisted brakes... avoid!! 07 and newer may have ABS but without servo assist..

    If buying used, I'd look south of the border: better selection, lower prices, and importation is super easy if the bike is on the RIV list..
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  9. BobbyLee666

    BobbyLee666 Been here awhile

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    Something else to consider is the "I really liked that bike when I first got it but can't stand it now" syndrome. I know that I have experienced this issue first hand a couple of times, loving a bike for awhile, then something crops up and the love turns to tolerance, then to hate. Parting with such a bike is much, much easier if you purchased it used and you can sell it for the price you paid. Unfortunately, that's not usually the case if you bought new.
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  10. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    tough to find 1150 gs's around here too!
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  11. sasha18yug

    sasha18yug Been here awhile

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    Well i am in the same situation...kind of... and from my point of view its like this...if you can get a bike that has 20k km on it and safe like 4 grand...then its worth it ...and have some kind of warranty...if u think that this bike is going to make you happy and you know what you want...then buy it new...i am going to get a new Stelvio this spring for sure...it costs 11.600 euros new and if i buy it second with 10 k km...i save 1000 euros...
    In my case i see that as a no go...but imho 65k km on any bike is not allot but then youre going to be the one that does the next 60 k or so and putting money somehwere when any of the bikes have 100 k is a must...so ull better get something with less km....

    Cheers Sasha
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  12. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    I totally agree with you
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  13. MuddySump

    MuddySump Adventurer

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    Why dont you see if the dealers do some deals on accessories when you buy a new bike too? BMW have offers on here in the UK sometimes when buying a new bike you get a choice of so many £££'s worth of free parts and clothing.

    Personally I would buy new if i could afford it and depending on what the bike is for. I like to run the bike in and know how its been used.
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  14. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Where are you that you don't have to pay sales tax on a private sale?
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  15. woolyzero

    woolyzero n00b

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    a few years ago i found a used vstrom on ebay that was well farkled with 30,000 miles for agreat price. in three years all i've spent is for tires, a battery and a new chain and sprockets. and at 51,000 miles it still runs great but i'm ready for something different so i can probably get my money back when i sell in the spring. i'd buy used again if i wasn't buying a hyperstrada.
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  16. turnitonagain

    turnitonagain Been here awhile

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    lol my secret :D
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  17. pjensen641

    pjensen641 Been here awhile

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    Not being professionals, sometimes private sales have clerical errors on the paperwork. A missing zero here or there...
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  18. pluric

    pluric Gimpy Adventurer

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    Truth or not on the actual sales price we still have to pay state tax on the amount.
    I've had them pull the Blue Book out if it sounds too good to be true.
    Dealers couldn't compete with the private market if only they paid tax on new sales.
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  19. AZ-Twin

    AZ-Twin Dusty and Thirsty

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    Here in Arizona we don't pay sales tax on used vehicles. It is nice!

    OP, I say go used. Here on ADV you can find great deals in the flea market. This summer I picked up a nicely setup KTM 990 ADV R with about 2K miles or so for at least a few grand less than a new bike would have been out the door. Deals are even better in the winter, especially if you are willing to travel.

    If you can find a good low mileage bike that already has luggage racks, bash plate, exhaust, or any other stuff you want, why buy new if you can save thousands.
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  20. cug

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    That can't be true. First I heard of the BS "use tax" was when I came to the US. Don't think that exists for example anywhere in Europe but for sure I can only say this for Germany.

    The thing is: used prices are just higher there as they are calculated as depreciation from the full price including tax. And dealers survive just fine.
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