New Yamaha SR400 confirmed for USA

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by HondaFanatic, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. L.B.S.

    L.B.S. Long timer

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    Ideally, I would want both. E-Start for every day use, and the kick for emergency back up. (not that I've ever had an electric start bike ever fail, but I'm still old enough that it stays in the back of my mind)

    Nah, for me, the final nail in the coffin for only kickstart, was my '91 DR350S.

    OMG I hated that thing! It was the closest thing on this earth to nearly giving me a heart attack or brain embolism I've ever had, including bad girlfriends.

    It was fine when cold. It was fine when hot. It was a very easy kick to light 'er up. But when it was luke warm, it would stall at the drop of a hat, and I could kick that f***ing thing until I was blue in the face and half dead, and it just wouldn't start. (and it sucked for trying to bump start that thing too)

    I tried everything to make it better, but it would only make things worse for every other situation of riding, yet still be a pig when warm. The DR was about my 18th bike owned at that point, and I have nearly a million km's and over 40 years riding under my belt. (many of the bikes being kickstart only)

    One of my other bikes I was riding at the time was an '82 Yamaha RD350LC two stroke. That bike, I could literally start with a lazy effort using my hand. Stalling out on the DR when I was late for work? Ugh, my blood pressure is going up just remembering, all these years later :lol3
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  2. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Kick start is for hipsters, along with film cameras, cigarettes, and moustaches. :1drink
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  3. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    I agree. :lol3
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  4. SCQTT

    SCQTT Zwei Kolben

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    I can tell you have never owned a cantanerous bitch of a bike with a kickstarter before....right?
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  5. Ginger Beard

    Ginger Beard I have no soul

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    Absolutely and it su-ucks when they act up!!. I would hope that a fairly modern mc with EFI wouldn't be of that sort. I have also owned bikes that kick start so easily that I couldn't imagine having and Estart on them. On them it would seem like useless extra weight.
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  6. mrbreeze

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    I would want the button. Thought about buying one of these back in the day, but with no button, and everything else had the button - and memories of kicking myself into a massive sweat still fresh in my memory - no sale without the button.

    I suspect that most of us would find this bike to be too small ergonomically, anyway. It may make a great bike for someone smaller of stature ( a woman, perhaps?) but that's just another reason why it should have the button.
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  7. Vertical C

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    This is a new bike with efi, what makes you think it will be hard to start?
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  8. Navin

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    The EPA.
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  9. oldhippie1

    oldhippie1 Been here awhile

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    Why are there so many sissies out there? If you can't kick it don't ride it. I rode XLCH Sportsters for years and Velocettes. All it takes is learning the starting drill and knowing your bike.
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  10. PAULIBIKER

    PAULIBIKER Been here awhile

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    Trade for a nice ZR7s.........:deal
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    I owned a SR500 for many years. I think I worked on it more than I rode it.:waysad

    I can't tell, is it Fuel Injected? IMO kick start only adds to the "uniqueness" of the bike. I like it a lot.
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  11. Team Dennis

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    No motorcyle trades wanted.Others possible.Bike is carburated.
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  12. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Did you ever get it running? Most guys quit after 15-20 kicks! :huh
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  13. 150ron

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    Kick starters are for the cheap asses who wont spend the 25 dollars on a battery tender, and the hipster dufus;s. :rofl

    That yamaha SR400 looks sick, id hi it, if it had the magic button only of course.:D
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  14. JerryH

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    That bike is just plain awesome. I am NOT a fan of EFI, but would take it to get that bike. I would also buy a brand new late '70s SR500. I have no idea why an "adventure rider" would have a problem with kick start. I have kick started a lot of bikes, though nothing larger than a 750 four. I had an XR500 that was very easy to kickstart, as well as a '66 Bonneville. The Bonneville had a starting routine, but once you learned it, it usually started in 1 or 2 kicks. I recently installed a kickstarter on my XT225, and no longer use the electric starter. I also had a Metro with a kickstarter, and rarely ever used it. Same with my Vino 125. Why? They put it on the wrong side. You have to start it before getting on. I do kickstart my Stella quite often, it's just more fun to kickstart a bike, it's what old guys like me consider part of the motorcycle experience.

    I would also buy a new W650, W800, XS650, or GB500. I have given the current Bonneville a lot of thought, but it just lacks the character I want. The old SR500 and XS650 were both paint shakers, the new Bonnie is too smooth. Never got to check out a W650, W800, or GB500, But would buy one on looks alone.
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  15. NJ-Brett

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    Love the bike, and do not need electric start.
    On a FI bike, one kick should do it every time, and it should not stall.

    I would rather have 25 pounds off the bike and kick it.

    A lot of these old Japanese designs use motors that are not balanced and they can vibrate a lot.
    My TU250 is balanced and is smooth for a single, and you can scream it all day long in comfort, but some old bikes I have had would self destruct if run at high rpm's very long.

    At sea level, in a 65 mph speed limit state that is flat, the TU does fine, but a 350 would be nice.
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  16. chazbird

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    For what its worth my last SR500, while not smooth, was smoother at 65mph than the previous bike, a 2008 KLR.
    Both of my SR500's kick started like a charm if you knew the drill and; provided the engine wasn't hot (restart) and the temp wasn't 90+ with 90+ percent humidity. If so, you'll lose 5 lbs.
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  17. PAULIBIKER

    PAULIBIKER Been here awhile

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    :lol2 That's funny..................

    Anyway my SR500 wasn't bad, pull the compression release, kick over until marker appeared in window, NO THROTTLE, & 1-2 kicks it was going.

    I was one of the the few guys that had a bike in high school and got asked "can I ride it" constantly.

    "Sure, if you can start it you can ride it". :D
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  18. gumshoe4

    gumshoe4 Been here awhile

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    Agreed...I am out of touch...:D

    Was kinda hoping that some more advanced engineering and design work might have gone into it, thereby providing more performance than an ancient, carbureted 650cc thumper.

    But that's just me...thanks for schooling me.
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  19. WRW9751

    WRW9751 7th Day Adventurist

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    I recently sold a 1978 SR500 that I had assembled out of the box. It was a very cool motorcycle, but had some short comings. I've enjoyed it all these years and taken excellent care of it. All things must change, I rode it on a 80 mile vintage ride earlier this year and it was fun. But when I returned I realized I wanted more. The premise of the SR is wonderful, short wheelbase, excellent handling. However the rub has always that it is heavy, under powered and has pour suspension. All of which are fixable for a price. I choose to keep mine mostly stock, 38mm Mikuni K&N, upper end oiler, handmade pipe (very nice).
    After waffling about selling it for quite sometime, I road a KTM 690 Duke! WOW! It was exactly what the SR wasn't!
    I'm not going to tell you that I don't miss the SR, because I do. But somehow the feeling goes away when starting the Duke!
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  20. XZed

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    Seriously? this is Yamaha's response to the growing midsize market? "Since 1978"? Really? how sad! and this from an avid Yamaha owner...

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    oops... sorry, wrong picture.. at least that 1978 model has a rear disc and two pipes

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    Sorry... It's cute, but I'm not buying it... the mirror is crooked



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