Newfoundland / Labrador Trip

Discussion in 'Canada' started by jonyfi, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. jonyfi

    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    So I was supposed to leave tomorrow (oct. 1st) for a 3 week side trip up north into Canada. It turns out I have to fly back to San Francisco to take care of some things, to return around the 14th of October :huh
    I am currently in western Massachusetts, and that's where I will be starting from later in the month...
    I will head over to ride some of the coast of Maine and visit Arcadia Nat park, but then it NORTH, NORTH, NORTH:D

    I wanted to throw this out there hoping I might bump into some fellow adventurers, either on the road or in their home territories... I will be traveling alone so it would be cool to share an occasional road, trail, or drink around with fire with some other folks....

    Looking forward to the adventure!
    John
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  2. damurph

    damurph Cold Adventurer

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    Welcome to Canada and how far east are you headed. Days are getting shorter and cooler. Travelling after dusk in NL is to be avoided as we do have a moose issue. Campgrounds are closed but it is not a problem to throw your tent down on public land here. You might want to check on average temps in Labrador for that late in the year and there will be even less daylight.
    I don't mean to be a naysayer just trying to give the information for a safe trip.
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  3. jonyfi

    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    "I don't mean to be a naysayer just trying to give the information for a safe trip."

    Damurph, no worries...any advice/info/warnings are appreciated, you aren't telling me "...don't go it!.":

    I'm aware and prepared for temperature and weather matters...
    The moose warning is a good reminder for me...

    I realize its past the ideal weather time for a moto trip up there, and sept/oct is more my ideal time ( I like the cooler temps),
    But I am prepared (proper camping and riding gear) and have experience in riding/ camping in the cold weather and am NOT taking safety lightly:evil

    I'd actually welcome a LITTLE snow :eek1:D
    ... Careful what you wish for, hey:wink:

    Fortunately riding at night is not in my plans....

    it was good to hear about the moose and whatever other animal warnings/advice would be welcomed...
    I've had run ins with bears ( one black bear and one brown):eek1, and hope to not have any more:D but I know I may face animal challenges and understand i need to be mindful...
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    Well when you hit North Sydney the coffee is my treat,shoot me a pm if you need anything.
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    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    Thanks! Unfortunately, initially, I am not intending to get out your way (heading up hru quebec to Newfoundland/Labrador) BUT ifi end up in your neghborhood you bet I will say hello:D
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    Just to reinforce the moose issue....630 moose/vehicle collisions in the province last year and countless close calls.
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  7. Littlepeter

    Littlepeter Been here awhile

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    Hello jonyfi,
    What is your planned route? Are you planning on doing the Trans Lab? Most people make a loop and come back through NL and Nova Scotia.
    Take care,
    Peter
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  8. jonyfi

    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    Peter, that sounds like a good plan...I have yet to view a good map of the regions involved. I started with the AAA, then the local book store, and have to admit I didn't hit the library yet. I've had limited computer access too...
    I was thinking of going up Maine coast first, but based on your suggestion and the time of the year maybe I should go direct north first android the loop you mentioned.
    While I am in San Francisco I will try to find some decent maps and search /view the territories on a full size computer...

    My priority is to go north, north, north ( or in the general direction) as far as I can go and then some more:D

    But I am open... I have three or four weeks....
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  9. Littlepeter

    Littlepeter Been here awhile

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    There are lots of ride reports on here. The "loop" is about 3500 km and most take about 9 days to do it. The TLH is a great trip and will get you just north of Churchill Falls, which is probably far enough north for this time of year! Have a great trip.
    Peter
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    Current forecasts for the next week have Labrador City / Churchill Falls temperatures gradually dropping to a high of a couple of degrees above to few degrees below freezing with wet snow and rain. Good luck with the trip. Make sure your gear is up to it. You're not very likely to be bothered by wildlife or flies, but it will be wet, cold and sloppy.

    Nick

    added Oct4th: I checked out your web site and obviously, you have a good handle on what to expect. You won't be bothered by too many other bikes on the road - that's for sure. Stay safe and have a great trip.
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    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    Thanks Nick, yes the temps are dropping:eek1
    If it wasn't for the unexpected delay I'd be up there already...I was really looking forward to that part of my trip...
    I'm not giving up yet:wink: I will take it day by day once I get back and start heading north...
    Ya, traffic should be at a minimum:D
    Thanks again for the info...

    I've also hit some ride reports and viewed a few maps online so I getting better perspective on things....
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  12. BittyBob

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    Check the forum on a web site her called Ride the Rock. Search there and you will find everything you need to know about riding here, Trans Lab loop etc.
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  13. jonyfi

    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    Hey firefighter, looks like I will be taking you up on that coffee offer :D
    I will be leaving mon. 15th or tues. 16th....

    Also looks like I will use the trans lab. loop as my main route and explore beyond that when possible...

    I am going to post a link on my website (twaroundtheworld.com) to my SPOT Tracking device page so family, friends, and folks can follow along...
    Hopefully we can me up for a warm meal and a coffee!
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    jonyfi,
    I did the Trans Lab this summer, so if you need any info feel free to send me a PM.
    Take care,
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    Have a great trip!
    Though, if you have the opportunity, try rescheduling.

    Damurph
    is right, the days are getting short and you will be well advised to be off the road by 5-6pm.
    Maritimes and Quebec are my favorite destination; I go that way quite often, several times a year, and if I were you, I'd be thinking hard about the season.


    Last weekend I did a 2.5k-mile loop to Gaspe, via Maine and New Brunswick, returning along southern shore of St. Lawrence River via Quebec City. Because of bad weather, it was getting dark by 3-4pm last Sunday in the Gaspesie. That's a problem, especially since I travel without reservations and still had to find a place to stay for the night.
    Even with clear skies, expect sundown by about 6pm - even earlier in NL.

    Weather can throw another roadblock: couple of years ago, I rode to Natashquan (that is as far as you can get along north shore of St. Lawrence) in late October and wound up going through - fortunately minor - snowfall, about an hour east of Quebec City.

    As much as it pains me (I really do prefer riding north, rather than south of where I live), I'd suggest looking into running elsewhere (West Virginia and areas nearby are quite nice at this time) or trying to push your ride into late spring next year.

    But if you still continue, make sure to have good wet-weather and cold-weather gear, including an electric vest.

    Good luck! Robert.
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  16. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    If your route takes you up I-91 towards Canada, I'm about 30 miles from the border and about eight from the slab. If you need a spot to warm up, dry out, or regroup, pm me.
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    Hey Canuman, sounds good...orginally I was going to spend time in Maine first along the way north but given that I am leaving further along in the season I think I will just ride north from where I am will be starting (hinsdale mass.) and I-91 does the job :D

    I have a few more things to wrap up here in san francisco and then I can fly back to the bike and get back up and going:freakylooking forard to it....

    Although its been nice to spend a little time back "home" here in san fran it has put a severe damper on my plans to ride up north to Newfoundland/Labrador etc.....

    I will certainly get in touch....

    Too bad I won't be around next season to take part in your "ride the rock" ride...

    I have work lined up for January thru March...then it is off to Europe for April and May, I sent a kawasaki concours out there a few months back it arrived last month so it is ready and waiting...
    ...and then after a few months work it is off to Alaska for August and September...
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  18. sailer

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    stay a Canuman place is one the way of the best route to Translab
    The stuff in Quebec on the way to Quebec City is nice. cross St Lawrance River at Quebec City bridges, Ferries are no Fun this time of year, not sea condishions, the shedules are really unreliable this time of year

    let me know if you want a list of Hotels for

    Baie Comeau
    Lab City
    Happy Goose
    you will want res for Lab city and HG, The hotel in Back country fill up with workers, now is a very busy time up there for work projects, every one trying to finish up before winter and they bring on temp worker that fill up hotels

    once on the Rock stay at the B&Bs best value for your money, stay at one at Deer Lake, was reallt nice
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    jonyfi 21st century adventurer

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    Hey sailer, thanks for the info...it is turning out to be more to be more of an adventure/challenge than I realized/imagined :D:eek1 and to top it all off I generally do not pay to stay overnight anywhere, that is my "CODE"....free camping in the great outdoors:D, I have been known to stay in a hotel or pay for camping but I have to be in some extreme situations..and yes it is just neccessary to do so every so often anyway, but for the most part I just do or don't set up my tent dependant upon the weather conditions and enjoy sleeping in the great outdoors under the amazing sky....

    This is certainly borderline for me, realizing how poor the weather and conditions are, but I am going to push through this...I am anticipating flying back to Massachusetts this saturday evening, preparing sunday, and leaving monday no matter what the temperature or weather conditions (given I can safely navigate the roads, ice is the only thing that could stop me :D)...

    This could turn out to be one of the most memorable trips I have ever taken :D...I have riden through the Sierra Mountains, the Shasta Trinity forest coastal range, and Utah through some crazy ass weather and road conditions but this trip could top them all:huh:D

    I would start a ride report as I start the trip, but with limited to no internet along the way and the possiblily (UNFORTUNATELY) of a time restraint I may just have to wait until I am done....and then the challenge of posting pictures to ADVrider has so far been challenge so far...

    I can certainly get pics and details on my website but it would also be good to do an ADVrider specific report...

    Oh what fun awaits :D:eek1......
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  20. sailer

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    well looks like you have good weather on Monday, once you get pass Quebec City finding Cowboy style camping should not be a problem.

    keep in mind that it will be below freezing during the over night hour once you get up near Lab City.

    almost all of Labodor and New Foundland is "Kings Land" which is Complete legal to camp on.

    as soon as you head north from Baie Comeau on rt 389 it will be very easy to find places to camp

    I have seen pics of a place that over looks Mechanic 5 Dam that looks like a great place to Camp, but not sure how to get to itm if you asked on this forum I am sure some one will give you the details of how to find

    take Canuman up on his offer, it is a good ride, around 450 miles from his place to Baie Comeau which is all pavement so it is a very much long, but do-able, day, get early starts cause sun sets kinda early up there.

    finding places to camp in New Foundland will be easy as well,(more Kingland land) once you get back down to Nova Scotia I have some spot you can try, but keep in mind no more kingsland (legal free camping), so you going to need to be a little co-vert, if you PM me I can give you some place you can try off sunrise trail, about a days ride from ferry and then a place in Maine about a nother days ride, I have never Cowboy Camp, but I have been driving to my Families sea side Cottage in NS every year for last 30 years
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