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Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by dirtyron, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Whats wrong with the L? The R is a straight up race bike. The entire thing is made out of Aluminum. Every single bolt on the bike will need to be helicoiled at some point.
    Yes it's fast and hugely because of the power to weight ratio but I wouldn't want an Adv bike to be nearly all aluminum.

    Yes the L is heavier and slower but the engine has one moving part and the bike is essentially indestructible. THAT's an Adv bike.
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  2. dirtyron

    dirtyron never grew up

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    you have some valid points. an aluminum frame is not the best idea on an adv bike.the xr650r motor makes a lot more hp and torque than the 650L. the R motor is really awesome. plus it is very easy to kick over. actually the old xr600L was one of my favorites. lighter lower and faster than the 650L.could be a beast to kick though and not a fan of those dual carbs.if we could only have the best of these three.:clap
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  3. dirtyron

    dirtyron never grew up

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    one moving part?? a turbine?
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  4. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    That wouldnt be a bad idea. 650R motor with a button in a 650L steel frame. Sounds like you have a job now!

    :lol3

    I raced one for two years. Phenomenal bike but man.... dont crash it then expect to get it going again while out of breath. It was the last Mans dirtbike....

    Nothing could catch that thing in the flats or sandwashes. I would always pass a dozen guys at 94 mph in the sand, then as soon as it got technical they would all blow by
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  5. Wraith Rider

    Wraith Rider Banned

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    Speaking as a mechanical engineer:
    You're completely wrong.

    Modern, complex bikes are way more reliable and thus much cheaper to operate. In addition, to diagnose one IF it fails is much easier nowadays because in many cases all you need is a common tool like a computer/pocket computer instead of specialized hardware. Also you often replace assembly groups instead of doing time intense and unsafe makeshift repairs.

    For the old guys <-> young guys problem... well... the older ones mostly just can't accept, that to the younger ones computers are much easier to operate than screwdrivers. The olds learned to operate screwdrivers, so they think every problem should have to be a screwdriver problem. The youngs are more like: If it's an electronics problem, it's no problem, if it's a mechanical problem, call a mechanic instead of wasting time.
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  6. Grreatdog

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    Count me as an old guy that can accept the change to electronic everything. I was happy to see points switch to CDI. I was happy to see brakes switch from cable drums to hydraulic disk and I am equally happy seeing carbs headed for the dumpster of history. I have no more love for jetting than I did for adjusting points.

    All fuel injection requires is learning what the different sensors do, how to test them and having the right tools to work on it. I have never had any issues diagnosing and repairing fuel injection problems in my trucks the rare times something screws up. So I can't imagine the bike will be any different. No more trial and error jetting sounds awesome to me

    While the carb is well sorted and perfectly jetted on my 640, I will gladly trade it for fuel injection on my next bike.
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  7. DAKEZ

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    Your rant is more pathetic than the Vanilla bikes being produced. I am sure if you look long enough you can find a few that you like.

    By the way it is: they're (as in they are) [klay]
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  8. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Been here awhile

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    Yeah this needs a bit of further explanation. Between the shifter and the electric start button I count at least two moving parts, and that's just the ones you can see.

    Need? No.
    Worth it for 14" of ground clearance? Yes.
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  9. dirtyron

    dirtyron never grew up

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    well of course. i'm not talking in aboslutes here
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  10. DAKEZ

    DAKEZ Long timer

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    When compared to ph0rk, who is too lazy to learn how to use his brakes and limits himself to F/I bikes, you are quite open minded. :freaky
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  11. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    its a joke!!!

    when did everyone get so serious..... wait this isn't GSpot, is it?


    :scratch
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  12. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Been here awhile

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    Have you seen some of the retarded shit that people do post seriously? Nothing is too weird to think that somebody believes it.

    Does this mean you were joking about the helicoil thing? Because that's pretty bad too :lol3
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  13. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    This is true.

    as far as the heilacoil thing - actually no. by the time I sold my 650R, almost every single bolt hole that requires regular access had been Heilacoiled. If you are racing one of those every weekend, and doing a lot of maintenance, you would be surprised how fast they strip.
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  14. Agent3012

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    Can I have more technology on my next bike, please? I want a heads-up display in my helmet.

    I want sensors on the sides of the bike to flash an alert in my helmet when they detect a vehicle in my rear blind spots when I flip the turn signal on.

    I want a range sensor in the front to chirp at me when the cars up ahead suddenly slow down.

    And then I want a sensor that alerts me when there is a job available at the salary it would require for me to pay for all that. :evil
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  15. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    I saw that.

    I also happily used both FI and ABS on my 20 degree commute this AM!
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  16. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    Surface to Surface missiles also please included with that heads up display or at least a remote guided .50 cal

    :freaky
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